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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9405812

“We are going to do something that I will say is slightly controversial but it shouldn’t be. We are going to indemnify policemen and precincts and states and cities from being sued. We want them to do their job. Our police and law enforcement has to come back and they want to come back and they want to do their job. And we are going to indemnify them so they don’t lose their wife, their family, their pension, and their job. We are going to indemnify policemen and law enforcement. We are going to tell them to get out, we love you, do your job.” – Trump, speaking last night at the New York Young Republicans Club gala.

Trump going after the tyrant vote.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's a lot to unpack in this statement, but the short of it is that he's thinking like a terrorist- that the role of police is to instill fear and the thing keeping them from fulfilling it is that they fear being sued. He's telling his supporters that he wants cops to do crimes with impunity

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

So pretty much keep the situation as-is? I mean it's really not THAT far off right now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, dude. Things can indeed get very much worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I know, I know. Just saying US police is already fucked up bad right now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Let's hope he loses and you don't end up eating those words.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I think you were missing the point that US police is already horrible to begin with. Yeah it can be a shit tonne worse, I know, but that doesn't mean it's peachy right now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is the problem with ACAB. Losing sight of what worse looks like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not an acab guy, believe me. U was just trying to say that US police in general is already pretty horrible compared to any other western civilized country

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sorry, didn't mean that to be the point of my thoughts, if it came out that way. I'd actually have to think about whether I feel that way. I also don't know what western civilized means these days.

Buuut.. the data shows this is a very American problem. Police murdering people is only pandemic here. Brutality, killing pets, racism.. def universal.. but executions.. mmmmerica way ahead #1. Another accolade alongside school shootings..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Things are bad, but they could always be worse, so let's accept the way things are...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No I'm saying that by irresponsibly overusing superlatives like "all," we remove the potency of the word. E.g., "today sucks and cops kill innocent people all the time, especially if you're a person of color, disabled, mentally ill, or a dog. And the decent ones don't upstand and report making them complicit for fear of self preservation, but not necessarily bastards. Good thing they're not ALL murderers using their privilege to rampantly kill. Because that would be thousands times even worse"

It gets worse. This is not all. There is more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

The whole point of ACAB isn't to label all police as bad people, nor to say this we're in literally the worst situation we could be. It can always, always be worse. Americans, by and large, have an extremely limited worldview in which many have historically not seen the cracks in our foundations or been in a position where such cracks have directly affected them. The point is to highlight those cracks. Could there be more nuance? Surely. That nuance doesn't fit well within a concise slogan of four letters, however. Unless NACBALOCAB - Not All Cops But a Lot of Cops Are Bastards - sounds good to you, haha