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Why is the US still sending an endless supply of arms to Israel without conditions?
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 09 Dec 2023
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Israel is surrounded by countries that want them dead for being ~~jewish~~ not Arab.
And they're already more powerful than all of them put together.
Bit of an oversimplification. Arab states are powerful and have massive numbers on their side on paper, who tried to conquer Israel three times, came close to doing so, and yet failed. Because Arab states are bunch of incompetent fools that run on patronage than by meritocracy. I can't remember the name but there is a book that analysed why Arab armies are atrocious. Basically, it is because of corruption and patronage culture that value "who you know" than "what you know". Even to this day, the Saudi-led and funded coalition to eliminate the Houthi rebels of South Yemen could not be extinguished for nearly ten years because of said incompetence by Arab states.
Only because of their arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons. Do you want them to feel like they have to use them?
Sounds like a shit place to be.
How big is Israel? Why are Israelis desperate to stay in an area surrounded by "countries who want them dead?"
Do you think US aid to Israel could be better spent relocating Israelis to rural areas in the US where they can be safe and revitalize the local economies?
Israelis aren't going anywhere, they believe that the land itself is holy and belongs ONLY TO THEM AS THE TRUE GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE.
This of course is exactly what the Arabs believe, and why there'll never be peace between the two groups.
Yep.
Alright, there is misconception going on, I believe, and we're still operating on decades-old outdated beliefs about the tensions on Israel.
The Arab states already accepted long ago that the Israeli state is here to stay. Before the Hamas attack on October 7, there was supposed to be a deal to be signed between Israel and Saudi for closer cooperation. Part of the deal is Israel returning the occupied settlements in West Bank to Palestine, unconditionally. Israel did and was about to sign it but got derailed by Hamas attack.
Many people who are not Jewish live in Israel and don't have any issues. The same can not be said for non Muslims in any of their neighbours.
Irrelevant to the topic.
Should we relocate all Ukrainians? Also pretty much everyone has tried to wipe them out at one time or another. The number of Israelis fleeing genocide in the middle east is actually much more than the number that come from Europe. It's the ancestral home of the Jewish people. Where do you propose relocating the majority of Israel's population?
The modern state of Israel was planted due to Germany’s quite recent atrocities, so that seems like the best place find land in a fair world.
I would be 1000% in favor of dedicating funds to relocate Ukrainians to rural parts of the US.
How big is Israel's population? (does startpage search).
Hmm. Looks like the entire population of Israel is <=10 million. The United States has plenty of space for them! For example, the entire population of Wyoming is <1 million, while the entire population of Greater Houston is >7 million!
Look, I get it. This is a pipe dream. It will never happen. The entire point of the Zionist movement is that Jews are entitled to live in the land of Israel. It is their birthright. Chosen by god. They won't concede and they have no reason to.
You want to relocate 11 m people from the middle east to Wyoming? I'm sure that will go smoothly.