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[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Doesn't matter if it's "skilled" or not, you're still paying someone to do something for you. And if it was trivial, you wouldn't be paying them.

At a restaurant I'm paying the chef and waiters for making me food, no matter what the quality, or if I could make better or not -- because I didn't want to cook, and they did it for me.

That alone is worth paying someone and thanking them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If only that cost could somehow be included in the price of the food and not reliant upon a voluntary donation from the customer as a % of the bill.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I agree with that, tips are bad for everything except management (in case they can use tips to pay less and look cheaper) and tax evasion I guess

Otherwise they're highly discriminatory and a bad customer experience

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

The expected tip should be included within the price so the workers are paid fairly by default. Tipping can still exist to show appreciation, but it needs to have a maximum. $1-2 per individual, or $5 combined. They should be extra in every sense of the word. I make sure to tip at least $0.50-$1.00 for perhaps a $2.50 drink at a local coffee shop because I absolutely love that place. I'm tipping to reflect that they're my favorite. That's what it should be like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's not a matter of the work being trivial or not. You're mainly paying for someone's time. The labor itself is extra on top of that. We need to work to put food on the table and have clothing/shelter. If you're spending your time doing work for someone else, then you can't spend that time on necessities, which means your employer has to provide it through your pay.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

OK, but why do you think you're paying teenagers to work in McDonalds and not courting the best neuro-surgeons and rocket scientists?

What is it about their relative skillsets?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

OK, but why do you think you’re paying teenagers to work in McDonalds and not courting the best neuro-surgeons and rocket scientists?

... Because I'm not doing anything related to neurology or rocketry?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah. Time is money.