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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Darth Vader is a very bad guy and saving his son at the end changes none of that. He shouldn't be idolized the way he is by fans.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't think Vader is idolized because of his morals, it's because his character is cool.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think of it kind of like D&D alignment, but with cool instead of lawful.

Cool good: Han Solo
Cool neutral: Boba Fett
Cool evil: Darth Vader
Meh good: Admiral Ackbar
Meh neutral: Jawas
Meh evil: Moff Tarkin
Uncool good: Uncle Owen
Uncool neutral: that droid that's just a box on legs
Uncool evil: Jaba the Hutt

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

that droid that’s just a box on legs

GONK!

[–] Trollivier 1 points 8 months ago

This comment made my day

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same result in the end, IMHO, as it leads to reinterpretations based on the love of the character.

I think Alan Moore said it best: https://screenrant.com/alan-moore-on-rorschach-fans-watchmen/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's an interesting point that would be nice to see addressed more in anti-superhero fiction, like The Boys. They addressed this problem to some extent with the Rorschach depiction in the Watchmen TV series.

Feels like Rick and Morty has had the same issue with people idolizing Rick. They have addressed it to some degree by showing how Rick's bad qualities also make him miserable etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That's just you not being a psychopath.