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Crack pipe isn't racist. People of all Skin tones can enjoy that sweet sweet crack.
In the US specifically there’s some historical connotations back to the 80’s and how the US government fucked over black communities by flooding them with crack. I’m sure you all didn’t mean anything racist/negative with this, but wanted to flag this to y’all since you were based in the EU and likely wouldn’t have the same connotations with the term :)
Anyways, best of luck with this! It’s a cool idea.
tthat's why it's always best to say fuck the fascist pigs that poured crack into the streets of minority populations as a form of cynical political maneuvering at the end of every comment, just in case.
Agreed. Not doing the least bit of research and choosing an edgy name makes this seem extremely amateurish.
well, you can't keep every weird american racist issue in mind, there are too many
“Amateurish”? This is literally a server for hosting pirated games, who gives a fuck.
Also, if your first thought after reading the word crackpipe is black people, maybe you’re the racist one.
And even if in the US it does have this connotation (IDK I’m not American), why should Europeans care?
It's absolutely hilarious, for me as a European the first image that comes to mind when i hear crackpipe is some skeletal looking white dude with half his teeth missing jittering in a bush somewhere.
really shows how internalized racism is for them, and it's sad - rather than try and use Lemmy to break that pattern they just move it over from reddit...
I'm from the US and have never heard crackpipe used as a racial term...certainly doesn't immediately bring black people to mind.
Are you trolling? If you think of a white person, why would an American, with an entirely different set of experiences and culture not think of something else? How is acknowledging an atrocity by our own government against poor blacks a bad thing? Is the goal of this project to have people use it? If so, they should reconsider the name.
Ok? acknowledge it to yourself all you want, don't impose it on others who have nothing to do with it, and ESPECIALLY do not try to guilt trip them, what do you not understand?
It's this kind of shit that killed reddit, assholes just scanning their feeds all day long trying to find some word or sentence they might find offensive hoping someone else will care too and join their "grand crusade".
Meanwhile actual content got drowned out in the noise.
Like holy fuck this thread is a prime example of this, instead of discussing the featureset, functionalities or tips&tricks it turned into a shitty ass redditlike offtopic racism rant arena.
Reddit isnt dead, and what "killed" it was API changes and a greedy CEO. Astounding that you think "Hey this name could be offensive in a large english speaking market" is a crusade when it is in fact a discussion about the actual content lol.
Except it's literally not, the "content" in question is the title crackpipe - a crack is a modified binary/library permitting the execution of software without authorization, a pipe is terminology used to describe communication between programs on a surface level - yet you and others instead saw "black dude smoking crack". So you're discussing "actual content" which doesn't exist anywhere but some misplaced idea.
I know what cracked software is. Surely the creators did not mean the name as a double-entendre right? They surely wouldn't like to know that it alienates a portion of the user base... Open source software is not inclusive... right?
You're the only one outraged and on a crusade. Pipe down. ;)
Outraged nah, just annoyed at seeing the garbage start here too, let's just stop and let's focus on the content aight, no "what if's" or "what coulds" if someone doesn't outright come and state something then there's nothing to discuss, just like we (or at least i) used to in the good 2000 before the quality of online communities went to shit (:
Personally I don't see anything wrong with being considerate. There's no "what if" here. The name blows. Even ignoring the racial history in the US, who the fuck wants to be heard talking about their crack pipe? It's a comical name at BEST. Who is typing that into Google? lol. Idk surely they can think of something better. Gamepipe was a good suggestion even as boring as it is. It's not just cracked games anyway, it's DRM free too etc.
Dude, We're trying to be helpful. Calling your program CrackPipe is just going to smother it in the crib. Words and phrases have connotations and associations. We're just saying that naming your program this particular name is going to turn people off to it before they even see what it is. I know, I've seen it happen. It's literally happening right now.
Even as an american, my mind went to cracked (as in /c/crackwatch, cracked games, etc) as the piracy term, and pipe, as in pipeline (like newpipe, etc)
The same reason you'd probably care if an American said something ignorant about Europeans. I feel like this is like saying "The N word wasn't used in my country, it doesn't mean to us what it means to you, so why do you care if I use the word?"
Obviously that's taking the example to an extreme, but I think you get the gist.
I’m actually not European (I mentioned it because others did in this thread, I think the developers are?).
In any case, I do “get the gist” but I disagree with it - why should the mainstream culture of a foreign country dictate what I can or can’t say (or name my project)?
And even if I did agree with you on that point, I would disagree with applying that logic to a term like “crackpipe” which isn’t considered a slur at all.
If you think the name is offensive, don’t use it. Once again, this project is a server for hosting pirated games, it’s not like they need to be advertiser friendly or whatever.
I don't believe that anybody is suggesting this. Obviously you can name your project whatever you wanna name it and use whatever words you wanna use. Nobody is taking that from you.
But just know that there world is a big place, and not everybody shares your viewpoints, and some of them are going to tell you why they disagree with you.
You'll have a choice in that situation. Either you change yourself to fit in with others, or you stay true to your beliefs and stick to your guns. There isn't an inherently wrong answer here. Whichever you go with is a personal choice that nobody can make for you, but you'll need to own your choice, whichever it ends up being. If you change your ways, you need to accept that you changed yourself, and that nobody else changed you. If you remain undeterred and choose not to change, then that's also on you. Nobody chooses your thoughts for you.
Sorry, that was a bit of a tangent, I know. It just irks me when I see people suggest that they can't say what they want to say and suggest that it's anybody else's fault, so I wanted to point that out.
I didn’t mean “dictate” literally, but whatever, I agree with everything you wrote pretty much.
I mostly went into this discussion in the first place because I was annoyed that like half the replies were about the name and not the software - when the name really isn’t that extreme. But at this point I’m part of the problem, so I’ll stop now.
Crack is smoked regardless of skin tone. As a US resident even the backwoods hicks around here smoke crack. Just because something happened to a certain race in the past doesn't make that thing racist.
Crack is bad regardless
i'll take one please
Exactly. Probably the most famous crack user is the white son of the current US president.
HAHAHA They didn't like that one