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submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/unions

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And at this point, no amount of pandering will make them abandon the very literal cult of Trump.

You made a lot of good points that I completely agree with, but I wasn't talking about the Qult. I'm referring to the disaffected Democrats across 206 counties that had supported Obama in 2008 and 2012, which were heavily concentrated in the Midwestern states that propelled him to an Electoral College victory. Trump flipped those 206 counties. That's a lot of loss for a single party, and given their prior support of Obama, I think it's fair to assume they're not drinking the Kool aid. They're dissatisfied with the Democratic party and voicing that dissatisfaction through the only meaningful method available to them, voting for the other guy. I personally don't understand how anyone, anywhere, could ever support trump, but here we are. It's dangerous to ignore these events.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

You make excellent and important points throughout. It's important for people to understand that criticizing the Democrats or their policy does not mean you support Republicans. Too many people see something critical said about Dems and just jump onto assuming that they are pro Republican.

Republicans are beyond saving, but that doesn't mean Democrats don't have to fight for votes and lean back into issues that matter to the middle class.

[–] abraxas 3 points 11 months ago

Didn't we get polls from a lot of those areas, where they admitted voting because they were afraid of illegal immigrants getting their jobs and because Hillary's job plan involved change and they just wanted to keep doing what they were doing?

I'm sorry, but I really can't fault Hillary for saying she wanted to take coal miners out of the mines and give them safe and better-paying jobs. But she lost votes for it.