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Who's winning the war in Ukraine? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The media won't give me great answers to this question and I think this I trust this community more, thus I want to know from you. Also, I have heard reports that Russia was winning the war, if that's true, did the west miscalculate the situation by allowing diplomacy to take a backseat and allowing Ukraine to a large plethora of military resources?

PS: I realize there are many casualties on both sides and I am not trying to downplay the suffering, but I am curious as to how it is going for Ukraine. Right now I am hearing ever louder calls of Russia winning, those have existed forever, but they seem to have grown louder now, so I was wondering what you thought about it. Also, I am somewhat concerned of allowing a dictatorship to just erase at it's convenience a free and democratic country.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was hearing the opposite all this while.

From where? There are multiple, reasonably reputable maps available that show the lines, and regardless of who the map makers support, they have to be accurate because of how easily they can be proven wrong if they make false claims.

Besides, much like Vietnam, or the many wars in Afghanistan, victory won't happen on the battlefield, it will happen when the invader finally gets tired of paying the price of war.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From where?

Indian media mainly, I haven't explored out of the Indian media bubble though.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I know they've historically been close to Russia, I didn't realise they still had so much support.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

India is absolutely leaning (hard) towards Russia. They probably never bought gas/oil and fertiliser so cheap.

[–] gravitas_deficiency 1 points 1 year ago

You need to be aware that India and Indian sources are a lot more charitable to the Russian narrative, simply for economic reasons. India is getting a SWEET deal on Russian oil and arms sales these days, much to the frustration and ire of a lot of the rest of the world. India is one of the major reasons why the economic sanctions against Russia aren’t working quite as well as they could be.