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[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I think it's misleading to say that EU would make steep demands, because it gives the impression that EU would deliberately try to make UK joining difficult. UK shouldn't get any special treatment (good or bad) and they should get the exact same standard joining procedure all other countries would get. The standard procedure is already going to have their panties twisted, no need to give them a legitimation reason to complain.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Let's keep in mind the UK dove into directions so divergent from the EU, on such trivial matters, just to face those demands - so trivial it will feel as petty - will make the UK negotiators twist their hands in anger.

And to crown it all, just the demand to drop the pound would be nurderous to the british pride.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Absolutely. I think we're on the same page that the process of joining is going to have the UK complain and whine at every step. My point was rather that saying EU would make demands so steep could be taken as EU wanting make an example out of UK. That's not really what we should want because we know the UK is going to complain and treating them harsher than any other applicant would somewhat legitimize their grievances. I think a better wording for "EU would make demands so steep, crawling on..." would be "UK will think the demands are so steep, crawling on glass..." because then instead of seeming like EU is being unfair it's going to seem like UK simply doesn't want to play ball (which is how we have ended up in this situation in the first place).

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Don't care. It stays as a lasting testament of my sausage fingers.