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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What if I just want to upgrade some packages? Like not change channel, but Firefox needs an update? I'm not op and don't use flakes btw

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If using flakes you could just for instance add another input. You can also set the input URLs to specific states of the nixpkgs repository by eg referencing specific commits. Then, you should be able to just, e.g., pick Firefox from unstable, another package from the current stable channel, and maybe a broken package from a pull request fixing said package.

If you are not using flakes you can also add system wide channels. IIRC you can then import these channels into your configuration.nix and select packages from the corresponding channels. But here the channels/inputs are not part of configuration itself in contrast to when using flakes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's no command to just update all packages without changing the nixos version?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a bit confused about what you actually want? Do you just want to update your packages, but stay on the same NixOS version? Just continue like before. Do you want to stay on your current version, but use some packages from the next version? That should also be possible if you somehow include that channel in your configuration.nix (though I don't know how this would work in practice).

Personally, I just run with unstable though, then the releases aren't that important.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I thought unstable would mean, well, unstable. Like nightly releases or something. Would you use unstable for Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think unstable and the fixed versions use the same Firefox package, so you wouldn't gain anything. The difference is rather in libraries that get used and how the distribution does things. For example, the changes listed in https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/release-notes#sec-release-23.11-incompatibilities just appeared mostly one by one for me; one day, I wanted to update my system and got the error that the fonts option got renamed, so I had to change my configuration.

The fonts.fonts and fonts.enableDefaultFonts options have been renamed to fonts.packages and fonts.enableDefaultPackages respectively.

While when using a fixed point release, these changes won't happen. Only when you switch releases. That's what "unstable" refers to.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Update your channel & rebuild

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that the equivalent to apt update and apt upgrade? I don't want to apt dist-upgrade lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When not using flakes, nixos-rebuild switch --upgrade is equivalent to apt update; apt upgrade. The equivalent to dist-upgrade is nix-channel add $NEW-CHANNEL-URL nixos and then performing a regular update.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Thanks. I've done switch many times after editing my config file. I've never added --upgrade!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can add something like this to your config: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48831392/how-to-add-nixos-unstable-channel-declaratively-in-configuration-nix

You just need to have it fetch the tarball for nixos 23.11 instead of nixos unstable.