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Pope Francis has decided to punish one of his highest-ranking critics, Cardinal Raymond Burke, by revoking his right to a subsidized Vatican apartment and salary in the second such radical action against a conservative American prelate this month, according to two people briefed on the measures.

Francis told a meeting of the heads of Vatican offices last week that he was moving against Burke because he was a source of “disunity” in the church, said one of the participants at the Nov. 20 meeting. The participant spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to reveal the contents of the encounter.

Francis said he was removing Burke’s privileges of having a subsidized Vatican apartment and salary as a retired cardinal because he was using the privileges against the church, said another person who was subsequently briefed on the pope’s measures. That person also spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to reveal the details.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 8 months ago (22 children)

I wouldn't be surprised to see a schism at some point. American Catholicism is being influenced greatly by evangelical Christianity and the political project that exists around that.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The American catholics who i know love Francis and think it's taken too long to get him. Anecdotal, but I think the Dallas based church would have difficulty convincing local parishes that the Catholic pope is now misinformed and the new bigot really speaks for God

[–] gravitas_deficiency 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I think you’re vastly underestimating how much the Nationalist Christian demographic gets pumped up by their hour of hate. They’ve got a persecution fetish.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nationalist Christian demographic

Sure they'd love him, but they're also not Catholic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I beg to differ. I know several who are, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Remember anecdote should not be treated as empirical.

I know some Catholics that may as well be evangelicals with extra steps, but I know more that are far from it. It happens to be that the ones that aren’t essentially evangelicals are just quiet about it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone who went to a Catholic school in Dallas, I don't share your optimism. I hope you're right, though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I don't doubt he'll get churches in his old diocese, I'm doubtful that it'll have far reaching consequences, though.

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