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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Guess I'm moving to proxmox

Free ESXi will also be killed off I bet

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve been using PM for about a year now. It’s quite nice, although I’ll fully admit I’ve barely scratched the surface of what it can do. I’ve heard a lot of people transition to Prox and adapt fairly quickly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's not... A walk in the park, and some stuff will have you manually editing files, as the UI might be missing those. But so far I've been a happy user for a bunch of years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I can't count the number of times I had to do that under ESXi, or do manual vSAN recoveries, so I found myself quite comfortable doing that in proxmox too (especially since proxmox is regular debian).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, not unlike the Linux experience; there will be times where you have to touch and/or nano configs. If you’re comfortable with such things, excellent. If not.. you fidna get comfortable.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As someone who moved to Proxmox for my 3-node homelab, good luck.

I find the automation for deploying VMs to be woefully incapable compared to Terraform/PowerCLI on the VMware side. Not to mention things like load balancing/DRS are flat out missing.

I managed to get it stable enough for homelab-y things like *arr, plex, DNS, etc - but at this point I would quit rather than use it in a production environment. Or maybe I would just look at bare metal kubernetes instead.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Have you seen xcp-ng and xen orchestra?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What OS would you use for the bare metal install?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Probably Debian or Ubuntu LTS?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, I use terraform for my Proxmox clusters without any major issues. What kind of trouble does it give you?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The biggest issue is being in aware of migrations for load balancing. If VM 1 is deployed to Node 1 with Terraform, then is moved to Node 2 at some point for load balancing, Terraform tries to recreate it on Node 1.

Also, I have a slight moral objection to one of the top providers being developed by a for-profit prison company.

[–] You999 3 points 1 year ago

Your use case sounds like kubernetes would be a way better fit as dynamicly scaling and load balancing is kinda the whole point of kubernetes.

Proxmox clustering is essentially just for adding redundancy and nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

IaaS or gtfo? I would love to see more development in this area, but I think you might be covering a bit too much ground with "in a production environment". Tons of smaller (and not so small) companies are still running piles of bare metal chaos and could benefit greatly from even the simplest Proxmox setup.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've got the project on my list to test oVirt.