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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

A video that I commonly direct people to for a good overview of tank production in WW2 is here.

While the mainstay German tanks like Panzer III and Panzer IVs were not strictly speaking overengineered, they did suffer from the German production pipeline not being properly industrialized or designed for scale.

The Soviets quickly adopted and adapted to copy the American production line concepts, with the modification that factories were centralized rather than relying on very much secondary production. For a nation without a large pre-existing automobile industry, the logistical achievement was impressive.

T-34s, especially wartime production T-34s were not great tanks. They did enough to blunt some of the fighting, but the undersung hero of tank combat in WW2 were old fashioned anti-tank guns, which while far less exciting than tanks battles, took out more tanks than enemy tanks did.

There is really no production choice the Germans could have made in the mid war that would have turned the tide. They simply hadn’t started the war with the appropriate factories and their ability to build those factories continually degraded. There were too many cooks in the kitchen regarding tank production, so even if an individual did come up with a great plan to restructure production, it would be mired in the factional infighting of the German military.

While there are stories of workers T-34s driving straight from sieged factories onto the battlefield, I’ll emphasize the fact that those are stories, and are apocryphal at best. The Soviet Union after WW2 was very eager to spread aggrandizing stories about the great fight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

T-34s, especially wartime production T-34s were not great tanks.

They were good enough that they completely outclassed the Panzer III and IV that were sent against them at the start.

"The Panzer IV was partially succeeded by the Panther medium tank, which was introduced to counter the Soviet T-34, " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_IV

"a direct reaction to the encounters with the Soviet T-34 and KV-1 tanks and against the advice of Wa Prüf 6.[Notes 1][12] The T-34 outclassed the existing models of the Panzer III and IV.[13][14] At the insistence of General Heinz Guderian, a special tank commission was created to assess the T-34"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_tank

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Paul Ludwig Ewald von Kleist, called it "the finest tank in the world" and Heinz Guderian affirmed the T-34's "vast superiority" over German tanks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-34?wprov=sfla1

Another fun bit