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If no one has done what Messi has done then has he influenced the game at all?
Deep
Not all that deep though, You don't need to create carbon copies of yourselves to revolutionize the game.
Messi has pushed the boundaries of how impactful a player can strive to be.
You genuinely think elite trainers all around the world have not studied every strength and style of Messi to train the future generation of dribble greats ?
You alright mate?
damn.
Real eyes realize real lies
I never looked at it that way be4
That's what I was gonna say.
How has Messi been influential to the game when nobody can replicate the way he plays? Influential players are ones who start doing something new that everybody starts copying.
If most forwards strolled around the pitch like Messi for 80 of the 90 minutes they'd contribute absolutely nothing to the game. Messi hasn't influenced anyone to change the way they play because it wouldn't work if they did.
I take it as “most influential single player on outcomes/dominance of teams”. He is the player that can single handedly exert the most influence on a game. Certainly true in the modern era and if you consider his longevity it’s hard to argue against the same for all time.
exactly, compare Messi's brilliance to that of Cruyff or Beckenbauer who changed the way the game is played with new tactics and positions
This calls for Cruijff's explanation of the Diamond in a Dutch talkshow.
I wonder which player in history has made the highest number of people actually change the way they play.
Ronaldo making everyone kick through the valve?
Roberto Carlos convincing a generation of full backs to stop defending?
Vinnie Jones making droves of sunday league players think "midfield hardman" is a legit position?
What about Pele and inspiring joga bonito?
I always thought the same thing, but then again there are different ways to be influential.
I think it could be said he got more people into football - they wanted to learn to dribble, or score, or pass, or make plays like Messi. It doesn't mean they would do it the same way or to the same level, but it made people strive.
Also, in this day and age of football Adonisis, he shows that you can be a super start without the body of a god or oozing charisma or attitude.
Ever seen how during a direct free kick, one player lays down right at the back of the feet of the player wall?
Guess who forced that...
Same as why The Beatles is considered one of the most influential bands despite no one sounds like them nowadays
The Kinks, Beach Boys, Zombies, The Who, and I could go on.
If you're saying no one sounds like a band from the 60s in the 2020s then yeah that's true lol.
None of those bands really sound like The Beatles beyond a couple of songs maybe. They all have that 60s sound though so maybe that's what you're referring to.
Tame Impala would like a word.
I was gonna say this, Messi is the best to ever play the game but Beckham was WAY more influential or other players have inspired kids more to be / play like them. Messi is almost uncopyable (if that even is a word).
No other player can walk around 80 minutes of the game and still have the most goals/assists/dribbles.
that's true I give a good example when cr was at Manu I started watching him I was able to do his tricks yeah I know I'm nobody but I was still doing his tricks when I saw Messi I immediately thought of an amazing player with huge skills that can't be copied you just keep watching him you can't copy his talent not possible that's the main reason why some players choose hard work over talent particularly if you are a striker you usually go for ronaldo but overall you have good skilled players like ronaldo brazil ronaldo zidane cryuff Ronaldinho etc but there are 3 big names above them MARADONA MESSI PELE it's even crime to compare messi to c ronaldo.
everyone was expecting Messi to win the world cup why? to be the best well he did but no one was expecting Ronaldo to win the world cup why?
messi's critics were always the same he didn't the world cup so he isn't a good player I never seen such a comment for ronaldo why Messi had to win the world cup over the years? cause Maradona won it? Messi always had this burden of success of Maradona once Messi won the world cup people started doubting the value of world cup and putting CL ahead of WC lol that can't be serious
you know who won the world cup in 2006 but you don't know the winner of CL in 2006 so easy
fraud confirmed