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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You can murder and sacrifice followers, and there's mushrooms. But that's really it. Worshipping Satan doesn't warrant a content rating any more than worshipping a different god.

[–] nyahlathotep 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What I meant was presumably it has murder and blood sacrifice, it would be a pretty poor cult game without those. And if that's true, that sounds like an M rating to me.

I'm an atheist, I don't have a dog in the "Satan v. God of Abraham" fight.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

None of that has ever warranted an M rating unless it's graphically depicted.

[–] nyahlathotep 9 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Can you give an example of another game with unambiguous premeditated murder on the part of the main character, that isn't either in self-defense or as part of a war? I'm trying to think of any but I'm coming up short.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can’t find the ratings for the original (the game may be older than ERSB) but black and white 2 is T for teen. It has sacrifice, murder, child abuse, etc as a mechanic for the “evil” route.

Link to ersb page for bw2

I’m sure there are more games like this. I remember drowning my Sims for fun as a child and I’m pretty sure that game is also T.

I have played cult of the lamb, and there wasn’t really anything in it a highscooller shouldn’t see.

(Edit: I have done no research on the dlc. The marketing does look edgy, but that doesn’t mean the content is inappropriate. I don’t plan on buying the DLC. Imho the art was cute but the gameplay was mid. Also, personal opinion, poop management as a mechanic is boring and dumb.)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Skyrim, you have a whole questline being an assassin for a god of death.

In Oblivion you could only join them by murdering a random innocent person.

[–] nyahlathotep 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I intended that to be T and under games with premeditated murder by the player in them, but I realize looking back that I didn't say that so you are correct. They are, however, both M rated. Although, Oblivion was famously T rated before being rerated to M because of some PC mods with nudity in them. Even the console version was changed to M, which I remember thinking at the time was BS. So I'm going to call that a T rated game with murder in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I remember the official Bethesda word on that back then was "whatever, Oblivion should have been rated M to begin with anyway".

However, Morrowind has stayed ESRB T and has an assassin group you can join too. it's technically legal in-universe, but they're assassins nonetheless.

[–] pastermil 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Final Fantasy series, along with a lot other JRPGs?

[–] nyahlathotep 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

FF is typically self defense and/or war, but there are probably some murders in there somewhere I guess

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

FFVII has what is probably the most memed on graphic onscreen murder in the whole franchise. As graphic as you could get with those polygons anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Interesting question honestly. Sims 4 (rated T) certainly allows you to kill off Sims, but you're an omnipotent being, it doesn't have Sim-on-Sim murder. I think this is true for a lot of simulation games where the player isn't a character in the world. Cult of the Lamb is obviously inspired by those games, but also makes the leap to you being represented by a character.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You can murder and sacrifice followers... thats really it.

We have really normalized cruelty and violence huh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a game.

There's nothing wrong with dark things happening in fiction. And there are plenty of T rated games with similar content.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sure I agree but I meant to point something different, murder is the extreme of violence and sex is the extreme of love. Its not extremely graphical violence but I do want to ask if there was sex on display the same way murders are would it warrant the M rating? And if so, why Murder would only warrant T?