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I've been trying to find a good Marxist instance, but Lemmygrad and Hexbear are widely hated. Why is that? Are there any good leftist instances?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmygrad and Hexbear aren’t “leftist” in the confused sense that Americans usually mean “leftist.” They’re actually leftist in the original sense, meaning that they want to abolish private ownership of the means of production. To the extent they’re “widely hated,” it’s largely because the Anglosphere has been indoctrinated against real, actual socialism their entire lives.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More often than not, when Americans say leftist they really mean left-liberalism a la Bernie Sanders, which is really center-left at most, and not actually leftist in the original sense, a sense which Americans have forgotten thanks to two Red Scares and the first Cold War.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but leninists are not leftist in any significant sense either. They are more authoritarian/ totalitarian than they are left or right.

[–] Kecessa 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

That's not the part people have an issue with, the part where their users deny genocides, call everyone that has a less extreme left opinion of politics Nazis, end up being so "anti-racism" that they're racists themselves and take all critics as personal attacks, that's what people have an issue with.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Holy shit you got them to brigade your comment. They might as well be bots, I think Chat GPT's "intelligence" outpaces them.

[–] Kecessa 12 points 1 year ago

As is tradition! What's funny is that they're supposed to be defederated from my instance so I don't know why they even see my comments... Their admin even called my instance "sh.itsfullof.nazis" in their defederation message because they were angry that they were confronted to people who disagreed with them when they brigaded our administration communities...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They have a community dedicated to organizing brigades so it's no surprise that they are brigading their comment

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The rules in the side bar are very telling

Of course the last time I mentioned it's existence with one of my alts I got a 2 week sitewide-ban so this comment probably won't last long

Edit: Spleling

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extremely accurate

I literally netted a 2 week sitewide-ban on one of my alts in this thread for a softer worded take than this

[–] Kecessa 3 points 1 year ago

Don't know how I managed to escape consequences so far 😂

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any politically focused space on the Internet, left or right, is a cesspool of toxic lies and hatred of anyone outside their sphere