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Wake-up Call: Democrats could easily lose the White House and Senate next year
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The "Biden sucks" narrative is a little out of control at the moment. I hope his team pivots to highlight all of his successes around the time Trump is getting tossed in prison. That should hopefully be enough juxtaposition for even the most terminally online idiots in this country to not vote for the meme candidate again.
Part of the problem also is that centrist Dem voters are single issue queens and will refuse to turn out if they don't get their way on certain issues, and a lot of them are drawing lines in the sand over Israel/Palestine right now. In case anybody hasn't be paying attention, let me assure you, Trump will not end the war in the middle east. If anything, he will accelerate it. If you're unhappy about Biden supporting Israel but calling for an end to hostilities, boy are you going to be upset if Trump takes the White House and endorses full-on genocide of Muslims in the west bank and complete Russian supremacy in Ukraine.
This mentality of picking between worst options isn't very appealing. Better y'all vote for some third party (even if they don't win as whole)
that's almost the worst thing you can do in a two party system, short of not voting at all. It sucks that the system only really allows two parties but throwing away your vote on a third party is not the way to fix it
First-Past-the-Post voting makes this shit suck so hard. Not only does voting third party reduce the threshold for the rest of the field and in particular the party I definitely don't want in power, that party is most incentivised to prop up my third party candidate. They get to count my vote as win, and with the stakes as high as they are even losing an election cycle means people I care about get seriously hurt.
Why it is a two party system?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote_splitting
Our election system is inherently biased against 3rd party candidates. So we're stuck with two parties.
And money's involvement in politics just exacerbates everything.
you're the one advocating for a third party vote, you should know
Insulting people isn't going win us change towards a more fair electoral system.
So what you're trying to tell us, is that we literally have no choice who to vote for.
A lot of people would rather see this increasingly undemocratic system collapse entirely than to try to hold it together with bandaids with no one stopping the cause of the bleeding.
If there's literally zero way through voting to influence the behavior of politicians without making things worse, then why bother voting or participating in this psychopathic system at all?
And if your response is something like "you're an idiot, shut up you idiot!", then you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and going la-la-la-la-la.
Your job isn't to demonstrate your virtue through tribal arguments, your job is to understand why people don't want to vote for Biden.
You just need to stop lecturing and scolding for like, a few dang minutes.
Look at what it was like in Russia after the Soviets fell and tell me how great it will be when the system falls.
A few guys with money swarmed in and snatched up all the goodies, while the people got nothing.
People who were living on pensions, or needed constant medical care, or were too young to work took the brunt of it.
a lot of people love to fantasize but are the first to cry for help when shit hits the fan
Feel free to drive to the mountains, leave all your possessions behind, and enjoy the collapse you clearly want without dooming millions of us to death
I hope you are just young and haven't gotten to social studies subject in school yet.
We have a system that guarantees a stalemate between two parties.
If we had Ranked Choice Voting, we could actually have third, fourth, fifth etc parties that actually have a chance.
In our reality today a third party vote is like not showing up at all. It wont do a thing.
Appealing? No.
Necessary? Depends what the issues are and how they impact you.
It comes down to game theory. Voting against the lesser evil is advantageous to you because if they win, things will be slightly less bad. If you throw your hands up and say it doesn't matter, you're not giving any disadvantage to the greater evil.