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I have about a dozen dead wd white labels, all clicked/faulted right around the 3-5 year mark. (Out of 41 disks across 3 servers).
Looking back, the small discount from shucking was not worth it in long run. These are subpar drives.
Just my personal two cents.
2/8 for me at about the 5 year mark.
I have three that don’t even power around anymore for no reason when I can’t figure out why
If you bought those all at once, sounds like a bad manufacturing batch.
Yeah before shucking got popular the white labels were helium filled and the 14tb and 10tb drives required the 3 pin tape mod on all my evga and Corsair psus. I won’t be buying wd to shuck again. I’ve had good luck with seagate expansion drives which are actually labeled exos or ironwolfs which are supported with firmware updates from seagate. Warranty claims also isn’t an issue I worry about with seagate.
I’m coming up to the 4 year mark on my wd white labels and they’re a hassle.
I have 8 WD whitelabels that are all around 5 years old. None dead yet but I may have just gotten lucky so far. I'm going to buy 2 of these to start replacing the old ones.
Honestly at this point I'm buying used drives. I have redundancy anyway, and if I get a 50% discount for buying used and have to buy 10% more drives for extra redundancy, that still comes up Milhouse.
So for someone who currently relies on external drives, you wouldn't recommend this? Would that be all WD easystores or just the 18tb? I've still got a ways to go before migrating to internals so I can't really afford much more than the $200 thus far
This is all anecdotal evidence.
I’ve got 8-8TB, 8-12TB, and 3-14TB drives (all white label shucks) bought between 7yrs ago and now. The 8TBs were all bought over 5yrs and no failures. I’ve had 1 -12TB die recently, it was at the 3yr mark.
I have 2x8TB, 2x10TB 2x12TB, 2x18TB and 14TB, all shucked. No issues. the 8TB's are at 6 years powered on too.
I think you have environmental issues at play. That failure rate is incredibly abnormal.
I agree. 2x6tb, 2x10tb, 8x8 going strong for 6 years 24/7 operation now. All easy store shucks. I just installed 8 18tb from server parts deals in my new NAS as well no issues a few weeks in.
Agreed. Many of my shucks are over the 3 year mark with the oldest approaching 7 years, powered on 24/7 and never spun down. None show any signs of degradation
By environmental issues do you mean the condition of where the hardrives are being stored? As in if heat is too high or too much humidity in the air around the machine?
I've got 10 drives 5 8 tb going on 6 years and 5 14 tb going on 5 years had 1 8tb develop a bunch of write errors at around 5 years in imo they have been worth the money they have been running 24/7 in my main unraid server