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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

qlc is not reliable enough

I'm fine with it, I want 16TB NVMe M2 cards at a reasonable price for my next TrueNAS build

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

only storage ive had fail since the seagate 1tb hdd days were qlc flash drives.

ive been running hdd's and ssd's, mostly tlc, since 2013 in RAID arrays with Areca cards. Before that was all HDD since the PCI-X days. Currently have 8x 4TB 850 Evos, theyd be 8TB but only QLC available in that capacity.

I have never had a tlc drive die on me, only qlc and only recently.

i hear you on cheaper storage, but reliability and speed matter as well, primarily reliability in my case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who makes the NAND for it? YMTC QLC are known to fail, but never had an issue with Samsung QLC.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Buddy just had a 970 Plus 1TB nvme die out of nowhere, one of the switcharoo models that samsung quietly swapped out tlc for qlc.

Its fairly widespread...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/08/samsung-seemingly-caught-swapping-components-in-its-970-evo-plus-ssds/

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/100-of-my-qlc-drives-are-now-dead.315081/

I rely on multi-ssd RAID arrays for work, as do many others in my line of work. None of us use TLC. Its cheaper and higher capacity, but NOT reliable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

They didn't swap tlc for qlc for that particular model tho? The swap was from their 92L to 128L flash, both tlc

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

My old PC is currently using a 660p, no problems.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

is it true that there really are no 8tb tlc external ssd and they are all qlc? is that why I've never found one. I wanted an 8tb for ps4 games

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

thus far, commercially, no, for SATA at peast as far as i know.