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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I find it strange that people call it user-friendly, despite it doing a lot of things hostile to the user.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Just more in the neighborhood of being used or understanding something because it has been given to them from a very young age on. So getting familiar and used to it very young age on makes it "friendly" even though it is more "familiarity".

Linux is always going to be really awkward at first but over the course of time you learn and shy away and develop your own kinda workflow and that's the beauty of it in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Because user-friendly means that even a tech-noob can easily set it up and use it right away without much researching.

  • If an OS requires ANY AMOUNT of command line, you have lost about half the population.

  • If an OS asks any remotely difficult question with techno lingo, you have lost an other quarter.

  • If an OS doesn't work out of the box the way it should (like all their hardware functioning including audio), you have lost all the other not technology inclined people.

Windows is setup that it requires none of that. It may do something that you find horrific, but most people do not care as long as it works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Windows devices are set up like that.

If you give someone a blank hard drive and Windows install media, they need to to all of those things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Have you installed Windows 10 or 11 lately?

The most difficult part are the partitions, but even that is done mostly automatically and doesn't allow you to continue if your setup wouldn't work.

It comes with decent default drivers for most generic hardware, and automatically installs drivers for more exotic hardware if it supports Windows Updates.

And it most definitely does not require a single command line.

Maybe some technical jargon, but even that you can just skip by pressing next and it won't fuck up anything.

[–] nitefox 2 points 9 months ago

Linux works exactly like that too, unless you start tinkering with it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Yes, it required a command line to perform disk partitioning and even a basic pre-erase.

It also asked about 20 more questions than necessary, and I had to answer "no" to each and every one of them.

Where Linux asks for a username, Windows insisted multiple time that I had to create an account. The only workaround was to physically unplug the Ethernet cable.

There's also a step where you need to lie about your regional settings to avoid getting plastered with preinstalled trash.

If you blindly click "next" through a Windows install, you will get the most bloated, horrible, invasive experience possible.

There Windows installer is an absolute fucking minefield.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If an OS requires ANY AMOUNT of command line, you have lost about half the population.

Half? It's way more than half.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

90% and I feel that's generous to the supposed 10%

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

"user friendly" doesn't mean "in the users' best interests", it means "easy to use".