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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (10 children)

From what I'm seeing, even with APO enabled, only 4 E-Cores are actually doing anything. The rest of the cluster is parked, doing absolutely nothing.

Actually, that's false. They're actually consuming power, how miniscule it may be!

And that's one of the many reasons I don't understand why Intel is stuffing so many E-Cores into their CPUs. Their practicality in real-world scenarios is mostly academic from the perspective of most users.

A quad-core or - at most - an octa-core cluster of E-Cores should be more than enough for handling 'mundane' background activity while the P-Cores are busy doing all the heavy-lifting.

Frankly, I just can't help but feel like the purpose of these plethora of little cores it to artificially boost scores in multi-core synthetic benchmarks! After all, there are only a handful of 'consumer-grade' programs which are parallel enough to actually make use of a CPU with 32 threads.

Anyhow, fingers crossed for Intel's mythical 'Royal Core.' A tile-based CPU architecture sans hyper-threading sounds pretty interesting... at least on paper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You think e cores are only for synthetics? What if I show you 6p+6e or 6p+8e can defeat 8p in real world applications?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Well, applications are definitely getting optimized for 8C/16T as of late so it won't be all that surprising.

Hyper-threaded threads (hyper-threads?) can't match an actual core by design, after all.

However, I'm merely question the addition of 8+ E-Cores in Intel's high-end SKUs. I believe I explicitly mentioned that I can see the potential of integrating 4 to 8 E-Cores into a CPU.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's perfectly reasonable for high-end SKUs.

You either have single-threaded workloads or games that might use 6-8 threads at most. Or you have "embarrassingly parallel" workloads like rendering or all sorts of scientific computing that will use as many cores as you have.

If you literally only game on your PC then I guess just disable the e-cores.

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