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[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Self hosting, at least for lemmy, is absolute trash. I have been told a few times when asking questions that, "it is expected that you are thoroughly experienced with Linux" to be able to follow the mediocre guides. And they are trash if you are a newbie.

So people like me, who would love to use Lemmy for non Linux things, am posting almost entirely about Linux problems.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn’t expect running a publicly accessible server on the internet to be easy or a great idea for someone not familiar with the OS they’re using. Great way to learn, though.

[–] Bakkoda 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I've got a proxmox cluster and I've been using Linux for decades but I wouldn't dare host something that a LOT of users are going to access. I don't know nearly enough about netsec and I can guarantee my vlan practices probably aren't perfect, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I have a solution for you. Just don't have your Internet facing things on the same /24 as your home stuff. Why vlan if you can just separate them by network and switch.

Or: just do it anyways. I learned most shit after everything broke. Not before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And how do you learn, then, from this project, if people are shitty about your questions?

I'm a sw engineer. I've been doing every kind of application management, development, and systems design for 25 years, nearly all of that in Linux, and I still need things answered about running apps in proxmox. I'm not coming to a Lemmy community for those answers, I'll tell you that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I haven't tried to get community tech support on Lemmy, so I wouldn't know what it's like firsthand. If people are really that difficult, sure, that sucks. But it sounds like the person asking needs to work on more fundamental linux skills than something specific to running a Lemmy instance, and the internet is full of information about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I get that, but here we are. It's something I want to do. I've been at it for 6 months and I've managed to get the site working twice, but am still struggling with SMTP. Digital ocean blocks smtp and send grid breaks the site.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

SMTP in general is a pain to configure. I ran my own mail servers for a while and finally gave up and used a 3rd party service. Too many problems with antispam restrictions, and things like I’d finally get it configured, upgrade postfix or whatever and then it would all be screwed again.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

If you never used windows before and were trying to do something complicated like self hosting on it, you would be having nothing but issues....

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Not really. There's tutorials for everything and most of them still work 20 years later.
vs you installed ubuntu 20 and now youre trying to follow a 16 tutorial.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Would recommend using Docker (container) and Caddy (reverse proxy) to self-host as a newbie, streamlines everything and only basic Linux knowledge required (although you do have to learn Docker commands).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

@Gabagoolzoo @ElCanut @ZMonster You could even use Portainer and forget about commands ( I rather use the cli as compose files are better imo )

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you've discovered the struggles of learning an esoteric hobby. Often the learning curve is steep like that. And often you will encounter elitist twits trying to push you back down the curve. But they cannot keep you from knowledge. It sounds like you're already discovering some of the rewards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Oh yes, I've been using the ansible method of deploying and I have it very close, I just can't get SMTP working. I've set up an account with send grid but letsencrypt keeps telling me I've passed the limit for certs and every time I try to deploy it says I have to wait another week to try. I would remove certs but since I've already wiped those out, I don't know what they are or how to find them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I haven't looked into it, but I'd imagine that it's your basic LAMP/LNMP stack.