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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If a gift of money comes with requirements on how to spend that money, it's not a gift.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Nice try, Justice Thomas.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are gift cards not gifts then?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

No. They're a fucking burden.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, gift cards are gift cards. Gift cards, however, are not money as you can't spend them anywhere.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gift cards are gift cards.

Yes, but that wasn't the question. Gift cards are to gifts like butterflies are to butter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can buy anything you want with a gift card. Whatever you choose to buy, that's your gift. But no matter what you do, you're never gonna get butter out of a butterfly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can buy anything you want with a gift card.

Only if that thing you want is sold by the shop the gift card is for. That's the condition.

The original point (above my comment) was that the presence of the condition makes it not a gift.

I will literally buy you a $200 Roblox gift card if you can directly buy a Keychron Q6 with it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By that logic a Lego set isn't a gift because the gift giver stipulated that the money could only be spent on a Lego set

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

the money

What money? There is only a Lego set in your example. A Lego set does not pretend to be money like a gift card does.

If you were to pick one thing to take with you to a desert island for 6 months I guarantee a Lego set would be higher on your list than money. This is because Lego itself has value, at least to those who enjoy using it. Money does not have any intrinsic value outside trade. It is a means to an end. A way to acquire something of actual value to you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can sell gift cards or regift them.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe I don't feel like enabling a total stranger? Maybe I want to make sure I'm helping a problem with food and clothes rather than making it worse? Call it whatever the fuck you want Imma keep doing it and I don't think there's anything wrong with it

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The best thing you can do is donate to food banks. Either with actual donations of food or money donations.

It's actually a good idea to give food banks money because they get no end of cookies but no fruit or vegetable.

I volunteered a food bank occasionally and we have enough pasta to survive the apocalypse. And every week people bring us even more bloody pasta. We could probably give it people to build as a shelter for themselves and still have more than we knew what to do with.

Also we have 40 bags of kale. Which I don't think anyone wants to eat even if they are starving.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to mention money to the homeless is subject to sales tax. Your dollar goes farther in non-profits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve never heard of a drug dealer charging sales tax

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Missing out on profits. Extra 5-10% on top in "sales tax" is the greatest marketing a dealer could ask for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Smart dealers know they can shake the police of their back, but the IRS? Hell no, once they're after you - game over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll eat the kale.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then don't give them money directly. You can't control how they spend it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if you just offer to buy them food, then people on the internet will complain at you denying them agency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you provide an example of such complaining?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's people in this thread saying a gift card isn't a gift because it has stipulations on how it can be spent. They're not being super aggressive about it, but still. If you want to find that comment chain check my last post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Okay? That has absolutely nothing to do with buying someone food.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mentioned it on a Discord server and got such responses as "Oh shut up. Let people have agency." and "It's just restricting more control from societies most vulnerable group."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So a couple of people on a Discord serve said that and you extrapolate it to the entire internet?

Let's take an informal poll. Who here would criticize someone who offered to buy a homeless person a meal? Please speak up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think I've seen anything that aggressive about it outside the Discord server, and it's the only one that really sticks in memory, but I've also seen a few comments in threads here and there sharing the sentiment less aggressively.

But it's also worth noting that any time you talk about doing something selfless, there will be people trying to poke holes to diminish it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Without the xkcd I wanted to downvote... Lol...

I refrained from voting at all instead

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough.

I mean mwahaha, I can use xkcd as a shield!!!