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Brazilian Série A standings after gameweek 33, with a 3-way tie for both 1st and 17th place.
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Yes, the difference between Leipzig and Bragantino is that Bragantino had some history in Brazilian football before Red Bull.
Bragantino had already won 1 Série B title in 1989, 1 Campeonato Paulista title in 1990 and was runner-up in the Brasileirão in 1991.
This reduces the feeling of an artificial team.
Fun fact to foreigners: Red Bull tried to create a team from scratch in Brazil called Red Bull Brasil. It didn't make it out of the bottom divisions hahaha. Brazilian football is ruthless.
Red Bull Brasil is weird because they had some good campaigns in the Paulistão, which is a pretty difficult tournament, but they were trash in National Divisions. Also, it still exists, but it's called Red Bull Bragantino II now.
Campeonato Paulista is difficult, but there was a time (I don't know if it's changed) when the rules were crazy and could cause some distortions in the perception of teams' strength.
The lower national divisions of the Brazilian championship are some of the hardest tournaments around: you got to travel thousands of kilometers to cities that have no airports, play in absolutely terrible stadiums in awful heat... and while in Europe you would expect the competition to be awful, as the clubs have no money, you got to remember Brazil forms a metric ton of players.