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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This happens in the world of CNC machines too. I used to run a two million dollar Mazak 300 Fabrigear that was made in 2008. When I started the machine up, Windows 98 booted up before starting the FANUC control program that actually ran the machine.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

My friend's dad has a CNC machine that requires floppy disks to load the design patterns. He's worried that a mechanical failure of the disk drive will eventually be the end of it, rather than the machine itself being obsolete. It's been going strong for almost 40 years now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Look for usb floppy emulators, you can have the floppy images in a usb flash drive. No moving parts or need to find expensive floppies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If this thing relies on floppy, I don't imagine it would be USB compatible

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's reverse: you get a board that has a floppy interface on one side and a USB socket on the other. You plug in a USB drive and the board uses a file on the drive as the floppy disk, pretending to be a floppy Drive connected to the interface. It's a little less convenient because you have to deal with disk images but it works without moving parts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I see, like those car radio cassette to aux cable modules

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It might be possible to buy an old floppy drive off ebay and switch out the broken one of that happens, as long as there are no proprietary connectors and such...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] bufordt 1 points 9 months ago

Ah yes, Compaq, the company that used non standard power supplies but with the standard wire coloring and connectors. I had several customers blow up their motherboards after buying standard replacement power supplies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

GoTEK SFR1M44-U100 3.5 Inch 1.44MB USB SSD Floppy Drive Emulator Black https://a.co/d/hJwq736

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Almost 40 years, so it's been running since the 80s? Damn, older than Windows.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

As long as it’s not connected to a network and is actually maintained, there’s nothing specifically wrong with Windows 98. Also just make sure the USB ports are shut.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It's amazing even for the cheaper CnC machines in other industries running on Dos or Win95, 98, XP. I use to have to maintain the hardware of these older PCs as the initial outlay to replace the machines was fairly high compared to stress and much lower cost of finding old hardware.

In the end with the modem equivalent CnC machines on the lower end we would only see minimal upgrades to the functions of the machines, versus the updates to the software. Let's me honest that would become obsolete yet again within a few years.

It's the circle of life?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My work used to use (until a project I worked on* to bypass it) a document formatter that lived in a set of chips on an ISA card

ISA slots went rare with Pentium 1/586; were extinct not much later

We had a beige box and a backup beige box. When parts failed the replacements were incredibly expensive (enough it was worth 12*60 pdays of fixing)

(* On resumes, I was totally critical to that project; in reality it was build led, and I was in design)