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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hillary is toxic to the brand. The Democrats would be wise to keep her at arms distance.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's a little sad because decades of right-wing anti-Hillary propaganda not only proved effective, but it noticeably altered Hillary into this jaded cynic completely lacking in vision or idealism. I'm not a huge Hillary fan, but the vast majority of the hate is completely manufactured outrage. That being said it doesn't change what you said being valid.

You can see them trying with AOC, but I suspect it won't yield the same results.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dude she was a McGovern girl. She has always been an empty husk seeking power and validation

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There's always been this weird push from her supporters that's anyone who doesn't like her is either a misogynist or fell for propaganda.

They just refuse to admit she has any faults.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Those same people are beginning to do that with Kamala too. Thankfully it's not as widespread yet.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

She was a Goldwater Girl, which is orders of magnitude worse. McGovern would have been a massive improvement from Nixon.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

She did a good enough job maligning herself, she didn't need the Republicans to do it for her. The entire DNC primary was a shitshow of Clinton debasing the primaries and showing what she would do for power.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

but it noticeably altered Hillary into this jaded cynic completely lacking in vision or idealism

it noticeably altered hillary clinton into hillary clinton

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

There's a bunch of stances she's taken I view negatively but admit there's nuance.

Then there's DOMA. Anyone on that let it be known their principles for marginalized groups is only "as convenient", which means support of them should also only be as is convenient or useful. She is no longer convenient or useful.