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Almost 90 bombs were dropped in one region in just 24 hours.

Russia unleashed an unprecedented bombardment in southern Ukraine overnight in what local officials described as a “massive attack” in the conflict which has continued to rage even as the international community’s attention has moved to the war between Israel and Hamas in Gaza.

The Ukrainian Internal Affairs Ministry on Monday morning said Russia dropped at least “87 aerial bombs on populated areas of the Kherson region - the largest number for all time.” At least eight people were also injured in other Russian strikes carried out in the Odessa region further to the west on Sunday night.

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Looks like it's all going according to Putin's plan.

I'm the last guy to put on a tinfoil hat, but the whole situation seems like it was engineered by Russia to take pressure off their war with the Ukraine.

[–] abraxas 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd say it's simpler than that. Russia keeps funding regions it wants destabilized so something bad is always happening at a time good for Russia.

No tinfoil hat, but total Scumbag Putin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Guy must have a copy of 7 Effective Habits.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More likely an opportune moment for Putin. The Gaza conflict seems to have been primarily stoked by Iran over concerns of growing positive Israel and Saudi Arabia relations

[–] TheMightyCanuck 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And Russia has been purchasing large amounts of Iranian munitions. It's not that far fetched for Russia to simply throw some money at Iran to throw a bit less money at Hamas to start some shit

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Iran does not now and never has needed Russian money to finance Hamas. This is a much older pre-existing relationship that its had with Hamas for decades. Furthermore, Iran and Hamas, as well as the other Iranian proxies, have a much greater interest than Russia in ensuring that Israel doesn't normalize relations with the KSA and other Arab nations. Accordingly, while Russia is happy to see this all go down, there's very little chance that they played any active role in it at all.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

There was no real indication for the scope and intensity of the hamas attacks. Based on US and Israeli Intel. There were some kind of warning signs, but nothing pointing to this ferocity. I think fighters got far further than they could dream of, and the severity of the response is a direct reaction to the failure of the isreali army to see and stop the attack. It's difficult to believe that the kremlin had more and better information to know that an attack would lead to war on the scale we see today. And I'm willing to believe that Russia sees benefits in arming hamas through the lens of geopolitics, they aren't controlling the actions of hamas in any meaningful way, I certainly don't believe that.

Putin is just taking advantage and is absolutely never harmed by being seen as some kind of geopolitical mastermind. He isn't.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Take the pressure off to help optics but also to squeeze any western support

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They said that the Hamas attack took at least one year to plan, maybe 18 months. Putin thought he would win the war on Ukraine quickly.

So I have my doubts that this was perfectly orchestrated to take attention away at the right time.

Russia and Iran's strategy is more likely loosely aligned.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Putin would have steamrolled Ukraine quickly if Trump had been reelected. There's a reason Russian troops massed on the Ukraine border right at the election. Putin couldn't back down when Trump lost, and lose face.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He probably could have, haha dumb westerners thought we were going to invade. They've trolled before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

They could just have said their special military training exercise was just that, an exercise.

But imagine that, a Russia that isn't lying.

[–] Thief_of_Crows 2 points 1 year ago

Presumably he knew there was more than an outside chance the war took over a year. And it could easily have been assisted by Russia while already in the works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Given how much Putin spent on Israilian DPI and their other... systems, I don't see it impossible.

[–] Thief_of_Crows -4 points 1 year ago

It was a great plan, if so. Russia obviously knew Israel wanted to start completing the genocide, and it wouldnt be beyond belief that Russia got extra rocket supplies into Gaza. It's not even, like, deceitful, it's just good planning. The best way to get away with something is to get someone else to do something way worse. And genocide is clearly way worse than Russia reclaiming a historically Russian area.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Why not the opposite in that case? Why can't the Ukraine thing be a distraction, if one of these events is a distraction for the other?