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On the surface this reads like you would be able to reasoning.
But then
Israel is a democratic state (which has chosen an awful leadership in the last three elections or so). By demonizing this as a terrorist organization you’re taking yourself out of any serious discussion.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism
Fits the bill for a government that is intentionally bombing civilian areas.
If they didn't want to be labeled as terrorist, then maybe they should stop bombing civilians.
This is what the Hamas did on Oct 7.
This is not what the IDF does. Israel is very explicitly telling the civilians to go away. Also in their communication they're very explicitly targeting the Hamas, not all Palestinians. It's the Hamas that uses civilians as shields so that the likes of you can repeat their propaganda of Israel targeting civilians.
But even if the IDF was targeting civilians, that does not make the whole state a terrorist group.
So you're wrong on all accounts.
It absolutely is. They are intentionally bombing civilians/civilian areas to reach their political goals.
Telling people to leave doesn't change that, if anything it makes it worse, as doing so contributes to the spread of fear.
Talk is cheap, especially when your bombs are landing on civilians.
Killing civilians is never morally permissible. And you need to take a deep look at your morality that is allowing you to defend it.
No matter what objectively horrible shit Hamas does, it doesn't matter. Civilians are off limits.
By that logic, Hamas isn't a terrorist group either.
Also:
What are you talking about? Hamas is not a State, it’s an organization with the foundation idea to remove Israel from the map. It’s not Palestine, and it’s not Gaza.
Furthermore I’m not defending bombing civilians, I’m pointing out that your language is that of Hamas’ propaganda.
And I'm not here for semantics.
You're defending Isreal's actions and therefore the bombing of civilians.