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Obama says people need to acknowledge complexity of Israel-Palestinian conflict to move forward (www.cnn.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Former President Barack Obama said a way forward for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is only possible if people acknowledge the “complexity” of the situation.

“If there’s any chance of us being able to act constructively to do something, it will require an admission of complexity and maintaining what on the surface may seem contradictory ideas that what Hamas did was horrific, and there’s no justification for it. And … that the occupation and what’s happening to Palestinians is unbearable,” Obama said in an interview on the podcast “Pod Save America.”

The former president’s comments come as the Israeli military focuses its offensive against Hamas in Gaza City and northern parts of the enclave.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Why should hamas keep down their arms when they see what is happening in disarmed Westbank?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unarmed protest is always an option. It's a harder option, but it is an option.
Hamas could keep their weapons, and target actual military targets in Gaza.
Israel already withdrew from Gaza in '06, but Hamas is happy to launch rockets at civilian targets in Israel.
Hamas could launch rockets at civilian targets in Israel from non-civilian locations in Gaza, instead of using schools and hospitals.

Hamas has consistently picked the most hostile options because Hamas doesn't just want a free Palestine, Hamas wants the destruction of Israel and rejects any territory existing as an Israeli state. Gaza isn't even fully isolated by Israel, but Egypt wants nothing to do with Hamas either.

I'm not even saying armed resistance is wrong, but what Hamas does is. And yes, Israel's government is also just as wrong, if not more so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You must be new to the world then.

Unarmed protests are not an option as evidenced by the great march of return in Gaza. Israhell knee capped Palestinians with bullets.
How exactly? Are you providing them with precision weapons. Also Hezbolla is exclusively targeting military and Israhell killed Lebanese civilians. Hezbolla responded by promising to kill 1 Israeli civilian for every Lebanese civilian killed by Israel. Also you might not be familiar with Dahiya doctrine of Israel.
Gaza does not exist in a vacuum. Gaza and hamas can see the occupation and annexation of the Westbank. They can see the desecration of Aqsa.
You are pretending everything Israel says is true even though you know they lie all the time.

Why shouldn't Hamas continue armed resistance? Westbank is the living example of what happens when resistance dwindles. Israhell takes all. Simple.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do you think an armed Westbank would fair any better?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Yes. If Arabs had helped they'd have their own state by now. But the monarchies helped suppress and kill Palestinian state hood because they are afraid of what the Levant Arab mindset represents. They are afraid of both islamist and secular Levant arab politics because they represent unity beyond borders.