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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A pound of ground beef or tofu is a third that price.

I understand what you're trying to say here. But I just wanted to add, making a vegetarian/vegan burger is not as simple as grinding up a pound of tofu and sticking it together to fry in a pan. I'm not saying you have to buy some of the "no meat" brand burgers to make a nice vegan patty but simply substituting some meat with natural unprepared tofu and expecting a great tasting result is IMHO where a lot of people get their aversion to tofu (and often derived to all meat alternatives) from. (Source 15years of vegetarian eating and cooking) The fact that ready made vegan patties exist and taste great these days is awesome for someone like me who sometimes just wants to make a stupid simple tasty burger.

Tl;dr: Tasty vegan patties aren't that simple.

I agree that people should be encouraged to cook more (I love doing it when I have time and it hits me). But simply declaring "nobody can cook anymore" and demanding people that might not have the time to prepare a home cooked meal in between their first and second job is not helping.

Of course the convenience of fast food and ready made meals is one of these classic situations where an "invention" that makes our life simpler and more convenient is a good reason why we don't need all that time we save to ourselves anymore. i.e. you don't need a lunch break when you can just microwave something up and eat it while continuing your work.

Sorry got kind of a long winded bit here. Hope it makes sense

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How about a different angle; enjoy the veggies as they are and forget the emulated meat puck. This isn't a dig at you, just a general statement of how I always found it weird there are so many vegetarian and vegan food tring to emulate a meat stick or patty. Veggies are wonderful all by themselves why not enjoy them for what they are instead of competing with something it's not. My 2 cents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Sometimes you want a veggie burger. There's nothing wrong with that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You know how people put spices on meat because they want it to taste more like plants?

sometimes people want to put spices on vegetable protein in order to make it taste more like meat, or fill a similar role in a dish.

People who avoid meat because killing pointlessly is wrong don't hate the taste. It's as weird as being like "people on a diet shouldn't make healthy desserts, they should appreciate low calorie veggie bowls for what they are"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

The point is that you spent 2+ decades of life eating meat focused and centered meals, and "just dont eat the meals you spent your whole life enjoying!" isnt actually a coherent or actionable thought for normal people.

If I had to cut flour out of my diet, Im going to look for good tortilla alternatives like corn. Im not going to shrug and never eat tacos, burritos, and other meals Ive known my whole life.