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Imo the Liberals will fall if Trudeau stays as leader, and it seems many feel the same way.
I'm far from a Trudeau supporter, dude did us a dirty by going back on basically every single election promise except legalizing cannabis (i.e. the literal easiest thing to do), but who else do we have? And I'm not talking about just as a liberal leader. Name another halfway decent leader that might be a good option from any party. The last good option I remember is Jack Layton. It's been a revolving door of losers, liars, hypocrites, and outright bigots ever since, and not a single ounce of integrity to be seen.
I'm not a fan of LPC either, but I wouldn't say he broke all of his promises.
https://www.polimeter.org/en/trudeau
He didn't keep them all, either.
That website is unfortunately a bit of a joke. It's a good idea on the face of it, but it counts every single promise as the same amount of importance, so creating a new learn to camp program for kids counts the same as overhauling the electoral system.
It also counts the electoral system reform promise as kept, based on the verbiage of the promise, which was a promise to look at doing electoral reform. While that may be what was said, that's not what we were all sold, and definitely counts as a broken promise.
If I had been in his position, given the results of the survey, I wouldn't have changed the system, either.
It was a dead split among the possible choices, and any selection would've been attacked for it's strategic political consequences, so he did the only fair thing which was nothing.
Also, "counting promises as equal" is value projection. The severity or weight of each promise is subjective to each of us (single-issue voters are still a thing after all), so an unbiased, matter-of-fact counting is not a way of equally weighting them.
It's a pick-em game between best of the worst right now.
Yeah and similar to the Ontario Liberal who ran former Transport Minister Stephen Del Duca who was about as milquetoast as you could get... many options for LPC leader would effectively be slightly more socially minded conservatives.
Elizabeth May? :ΒΆ