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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Makes sense if true. Laptop market looks like shit rn from a profit perspective, if anything has to get delayed or deprioritized, a high end laptop might be it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From what source? Laptop chips have always enjoyed higher margins than desktops. Not as much as their server line, but still.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's only explicitly true for Intel.

The manufacturing method for Ryzen chiplet & Epyc are basically identical, with a different IOD and packaging complexity being the only real differences, so any additional production costs predominantly down to that part instead of something related to the wafer.

Yield/binning costs cancels themselves out because a CCD, the single most expensive part to design and manufacture, has all of its costs spread across the entire Epyc & Ryzen chiplet product stack. Intel doesn't have that luxury, since Xeon & Core-S are two different sets of designs.

Ryzen APUs are a fundamentally different design to all the other Ryzen/Epyc stack. So even if the mobile chips command a higher ASP than Ryzen chiplet, they also carry with them a higher manufacturing cost because it isn't subsidised by being part of the CCD production line.

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