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Visiting the US soon - do I really have to tip? (feddit.de)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hey Folks!

I've been living abroad for over half my life in a country where tipping is not the norm. At most you would round up. 19€ bill? Here's a 20, keep this change.

Going to the US soon to visit family and the whole idea of tipping makes me nervous. It seems there's a lot of discussion about getting rid of tipping, but I don't know how much has changed in this regard.

The system seems ridiculously unfair, and that extra expense in a country where everything is already so expensive really makes a difference.

So will AITA if I don't tip? Is it really my personal responsibility to make sure my server is paid enough?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fallacy fallacy. No ad hominem here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Stop. Name calling is personal attacks/ad hominems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

if you knowingly go to a restaurant where your waiter requires tips to make a living wage, and you don’t, you are most certainly AH

...was the full quote. Even if we accept that this is ad hominem, you would have to engage in the described behavior for it to be so, which certainly doesn't hurt their argument that you implied people shouldn't tip.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Again, as stated in other comments. People shouldn't be required to tip. employers should pay employees correctly. Tipping culture shouldn't be a thing and we should work to actually eliminate and not tolerate personal attacks on those who hold different viewpoints a clearly awful and abusive system to employees.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Agreed. They shouldn't have to, but surely we can agree that if you're going out to have a nice time, made possible by someone who you know to be greviously exploited, that it would be cruel and unfair to deny them their only real source of income? Under those conditions, surely going to a restaurant at all is immoral unless you exchange the worker's labor appropriately, whether or not this obligation should befall you in an ideal world? Surely we can agree that in that moment, you are the one who decides if that worker will receive the income they need for food, clothing, healthcare, and housing, and if you will not provide it in return for your evening of leisure, it would have been better if you had stayed home and allowed that table to be occupied by someone who would choose to fairly compensate that worker?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

When i order food, the worker is always tipped by me.