Fuck Cars
This community exists as a sister community/copycat community to the r/fuckcars subreddit.
This community exists for the following reasons:
- to raise awareness around the dangers, inefficiencies and injustice that can come from car dependence.
- to allow a place to discuss and promote more healthy transport methods and ways of living.
You can find the Matrix chat room for this community here.
Rules
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Be nice to each other. Being aggressive or inflammatory towards other users will get you banned. Name calling or obvious trolling falls under that. Hate cars, hate the system, but not people. While some drivers definitely deserve some hate, most of them didn't choose car-centric life out of free will.
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No bigotry or hate. Racism, transphobia, misogyny, ableism, homophobia, chauvinism, fat-shaming, body-shaming, stigmatization of people experiencing homeless or substance users, etc. are not tolerated. Don't use slurs. You can laugh at someone's fragile masculinity without associating it with their body. The correlation between car-culture and body weight is not an excuse for fat-shaming.
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Stay on-topic. Submissions should be on-topic to the externalities of car culture in urban development and communities globally. Posting about alternatives to cars and car culture is fine. Don't post literal car fucking.
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No traffic violence. Do not post depictions of traffic violence. NSFW or NSFL posts are not allowed. Gawking at crashes is not allowed. Be respectful to people who are a victim of traffic violence or otherwise traumatized by it. News articles about crashes and statistics about traffic violence are allowed. Glorifying traffic violence will get you banned.
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No reposts. Before sharing, check if your post isn't a repost. Reposts that add something new are fine. Reposts that are sharing content from somewhere else are fine too.
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No misinformation. Masks and vaccines save lives during a pandemic, climate change is real and anthropogenic - and denial of these and other established facts will get you banned. False or highly speculative titles will get your post deleted.
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No harassment. Posts that (may) cause harassment, dogpiling or brigading, intentionally or not, will be removed. Please do not post screenshots containing uncensored usernames. Actual harassment, dogpiling or brigading is a bannable offence.
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I'm surprised that your insurance and gas cost is so low. A TTC monthly pass is only $156. You must have very cheap insurance and use only a small amount of fuel.
Yeah, I should add at least some context. LOL
I'm on a pay-as-you-go plan with CAA, so insurance is dirt cheap... something like $50 for 1000km of driving (that amount covers both my wife and I). My previous insurance was close to $150 / month, even if we didn't use the car, so that was a total ripoff.
Gas also depends on how much I drive. Since I choose to bike everywhere within a 20km range, it means I'm not driving nearly as much.
If I had to take my car EVERYWHERE, including very short trips (<3km away), then it would cost more for sure.
But it's really hard for me to justify the cost of a bus pass in lieu of other modes of transportation.
Given your usage why would you even compare the cost of your car to the cost of a monthly pass? Most bus passes are calibrated to make sense for people using transit as their primary means of transportation. You use your car much less than that, so to make an apples-to-apples comparison you'd need to compare your car costs against the same number of trips on transit.
I do agree. For what distances would we be comparing?
If it's for less than 5km, it would make far more sense to opt for a bike, e-scooter, or just walk. If it's more than 5km, then I can see it making more sense, but only if these trips are frequent (i.e. daily commutes) since you are still paying for a pass even if it's not being used.
The average commute, according to Stats Canada, is around 8km, and they say only around 7% of all car commuters needed to go further than that. The average car trip, outside commuting, tends to be even shorter distances.
Does <8km justify a bus pass costing $150 a month? I don't think it does, but maybe it's a good deal for some.
Pay as you go fares would make more sense for those who aren't commuting daily, but even those rates are getting too expensive to consider over walking, or biking.