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Baldur's Gate 3

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Baldur’s Gate 3 is a story-rich, party-based RPG set in the universe of Dungeons & Dragons, where your choices shape a tale of fellowship and betrayal, survival and sacrifice, and the lure of absolute power. (Website)

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Skyrim was a blight on the games industry.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Skyrim is a great game.... for its time. Todd Howard is the blight on the games industry for putting so many resources toward so many Skyrim remasters/re-releases/money grabs. Even if he outsourced all that work, those are dev houses he could have spent their time helping Bethesda actually fill their huge open worlds and perhaps get the same feeling of "every decision actually matters" that Larion did.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

It's good in some ways. I was disappointed in the removal of attributes and how the equipment stats were kind of simplified and boring. The lack of proper stat scaling, since there's no stats.

I was also sad to see spellmaking go.

There's still plenty of good in it, don't get me wrong.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skyrim is great if you want to be a stealth archer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is there any other way to play?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

every build is viable. the stealth archer meme seems a bit overdone to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

No. That’s why it’s the only time Skyrim is a good game.

[–] 768 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And the stagnation it caused in the genre is evident, no?

[–] halvo317 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Dragon Age: Inquisition, The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, and Baldur's Gate 3 all draw influence from Skyrim. I think open world games are better because of Skyrim.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (31 children)

Dragon Age: Inquisition and Witcher 3 both began development in the same year Skyrim released. I don't know if I can really say they were influenced by Skyrim because of the timing, but I haven't played either.

Baldur's Gate 3 drawing influence from Skyrim I will have to vehemently disagree with. That assertion just makes no sense at all.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dungeons and Dragons is literally just a Skyrim knockoff that uses dice.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That one was tough without /s, but ha ha. :)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FWIW, one of the lead developers of Dragon Age Inquisition confirmed that a lot of decisions around that game were EA wanting them to make Skyrim (for instance, the addition of mounts) Source: https://youtu.be/4Q5_RsII_Ho?si=a9CTmyHpEpgfuPTe

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[–] halvo317 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So many games wanted to be the next Skyrim, and so they brought over a lot of its systems and design choices. Including the bad ones.

The flood of games going open world, reliance on mods, and marketing through memes.

[–] halvo317 -2 points 1 year ago

I can't think of many games that do that. I can't really think of anyone that tries to be like Bethesda games in the bad ways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think Skyrim was a bad game, but I think it set a bad precedence for Bethesda. Oblivion wasn't terribly good, but with the success of Skyrim it showed they could simply reskin an older game and be profitable. Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Fallout: New Vegas, and Starfield are all the same game reskinned.

[–] halvo317 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To say Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Starfield don't have a place in Video Gaming is pretty absurd. I don't love any of them, but they aren't harmful and predatory like some other titles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you're the only one who said anything about not having a place in gaming. I can't find anyone else mentioning it, so you're either just arguing against your own comment or stating a non-point.

Also, Elder Scrolls was one of the first games to introduce predatory microtransactions with the Horse Armor DLC in 2006. They have even been credited with being the grandfather of the concept. I would argue that seems pretty harmful.

[–] halvo317 1 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People enjoy shitting on things and loudly, hyperbolicly saying that they are objectively bad and the worst thing ever. Especially Skyrim.

It's ok to not like the game or even hate it. Doesn't make it objectively bad or somehow the downfall of video games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was very disappointed with the lack of cities. I wish i had oblivion in skyrim.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Eh, let op make the point before jumping on it like this.