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I'm so absolutely sick of it.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Steam is lying -- you do own the games. The problem is that the courts are too corrupted by the copyright cartel to enforce the laws properly.

Just because they push that self-serving disinformation doesn't mean we have to parrot it!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh you mean in the way the world should work. Sure, i'll agree with that.

But that's not how things actually are. Right now, you can completely lose access, and unless you're a lucky millionaire with a passion for fighting unjust laws and the luck of the gods, you can't do shit to bring that account back.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But that’s not how things actually are. Right now, you can completely lose access, and unless you’re a lucky millionaire with a passion for fighting unjust laws and the luck of the gods, you can’t do shit to bring that account back.

But even if you lose access to the Steam account, you still own your copy of the games. Valve doesn't have the right to somehow force you to stop playing the games, assuming you still have your copy in your possession.

Remember, products (e.g. a copy of a game) and services (e.g. a Steam account itself) are two different things. I was never arguing that you owned a service, only that you own products.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Steam can disable your account so you can not purchase new games, but you should still be able to download and play the games you already have.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Genuine question. My assumption here is that if they disable your account that you can no longer log into it to download those games. Accurate or inaccurate assumption? How does it actually work? I know I SHOULD be able to download them, but can I actually if they disable the account?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I haven't seen a situation where they completely lock an account full of games, where the person who purchased those games can never access them again. The guy above is being overdramatic.

They CAN "VAC" ban your account, though. That does not deny you access to your account in any way, and will not prevent you from playing the games online or offline* as much as you want. The VAC part of the ban is that you cannot use any Valve run servers on games that use Valve to run their servers, like TF2, DOTA, Counterstrike, Left 4 Dead, etc.

You can still play the aforementioned games online, BUT after the ban you can only play on non-VAC secured servers (aka player servers that are more likely to have rampant cheating). The ban DOES NOT remove the game from your account, delete your account, block your access to the offline portion of the game unless, I suppose, the game has an always online element that uses VAC.

*One of the annoying DRM "features" of Steam is that you can play any of your games offline as long as you log in online at least (I think) once a week or so.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Purchasing ban does exist. Seen it on Steam forum itself.

You can still download and play the game even though they disable the account.