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Calls for defederation - Is the idea of the open marketplace of ideas outdated? (self.controversial)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Hastur to c/controversial

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Lately I see a lot of calls do have specific instances defederated for a particular subset of reasons:

Don't like their content
Dont like their political leaning
Dont like their free speech approach
General feeling of being offended
I want a safe space!
This instance if hurting vulnerable people

I personally find each and every one of these arguments invalid. Everybody has the right to live in an echo chamber, but mandating it for everyone else is something that goes a bit too far.

Has humanity really developed into a situation where words and thoughts are more hurtful than sticks and stones?

Edit: Original context https://slrpnk.net/post/554148

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[–] Vertelleus 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Why can't any user "defederate" themselves?
Why can't a user block any instance that they don't like rather than forcing an entire instance to follow their will.

Please note: I do not defend the actions of the these other instances and their content.

[–] taladar 7 points 1 year ago

This makes sense as an additional feature, not as a replacement for admins defederating instances. The latter is necessary even just to prevent their instance from caching stuff that is illegal where their instance is hosted/where they are.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Why can’t a user block any instance that they don’t like

Somebody has to code it.

Allow a user to block an instance #2397

[–] Hastur -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This would be something sensible to do, looks like a good feature, would you submit that to Lemmy's GitHub?

[–] flor0 6 points 1 year ago

It's a good feature I agree. But as the lemmy creators said they currently have too many github issue requests (100s of issues a day for a team of a few developers). Most of which are feature requests They are currently working on fixing bugs and making the whole thing more robust, not implementing features. I think we should give them a few weeks/months to do that before overworking them