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Masked Counter-Protester Arrested After Stopping, Shooting At ‘Free Palestine Rally and March’ in Eugene
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"Counter-Protester" is a weird way to spell "Terrorist".
Right. A counter protestor would be holding a sign, not aiming a gun. This wasn't "counter protesting" in any sense of the word.
Article claimed he was flying flags from his truck. I would argue that "flying flags" is reasonably comparable to "holding a sign". "Counter protester" seems an apt description.
Article further claims he didn't "aim a gun" until after his truck was attacked with him inside. That "gun" was quickly determined to be an air gun.
The alleged attack did not happen until after he tried to run marchers over at the intersection of E. 8th Ave. and Pearl St.
Article claims "blocking", not "running over", and it is demonstrably biased against him. I reject your "running over" allegation. If there were any truth to it, this writer would have made that claim.
If he was impeding a lawful use of the road, jail him for that. I'm on record supporting the free use of roadways, and that I believe 3 years imprisonment is an incredibly lenient punishment for deliberately obstructing lawful traffic.
However, "obstructing traffic" does not invite or justify any use of force attacking either him or his vehicle, nor does it negate a self defense claim by a person who has been so attacked.
How were these demonstrators to know if he was intending to run them over prior to his doing so?
It was a credible threat, given the history of fash killing people with their cars at demonstrations and any step taken to protect themselves from that potential threat would be justified.
Not even the overtly biased author of the article was willing to make that claim. You'll need a primary source before you can reasonably make such a claim.
That fascists murder people with their cars?
Why stop there? He's got a dick, so by your personal evidentiary standard, he must have been raping the protesters as well.
If he had been getting his dick out I'd certainly condone kicking it before he could.
...not that you have any proof he does have a dick.
Why are you defending a guy who shot at protesters and refers to himself as "a domestic terrorist" on his own youttube channel though?
As I said, I observed considerable bias in the article. I further observed libelous claims in the comments, far exceeding the bias in the article.
Frankly, I don't give a shit about him. I'm more interested in this site, this author, and you. The inherent bias in the article tells me I should be cautious in trusting them. I should not believe them simply because I like what they have to say.
Do you form opinions on the basis of logic and rationality, or on emotion? Do you trust stereotypes over evidence? Do you subscribe to principles like Hanlon's Razor and Presumption of Innocence, or do you assume malice and guilt?
Your statements here tell me that your opinion is not formed on a rational basis, but from your hatred and disgust of this driver's political position. You have demonstrated to me that your arguments cannot be trusted.
You can "Logical, captain" all you want. You're still going to bat for a right wing populist who surrounds himself in white nationalist imagery.
I don't have to argue that fascist are bad.
Fascists are the only ones who get to assume their position is true without ever bothering to prove it.
No, fascists are the right wing populists who appeal to violent authority to subjugate marginalized persons in attempts to reacquire a fictitious idealized past they have rationalized as stolen from them by these already disempowered groups.
If you're asking me to prove fascism is bad, you're doing to work of fascists.
I'm asking you to respect the 4th, 5th, 6th amendments, which require proof of guilt before condemnation. If you can't even recognize the meaning and necessity of "presumption of innocence" and "rights of the accused", you don't get to lecture me on "fascism".
Hint: the subject of this article is "the accused".
The whatever amendments don't protect a guy who cosplays as a teutonic knight from being told to fuck himself.
You haven't told him to fuck himself. You've accused him of crimes you didn't witness.
I also accuse him of smelling farts. What are you going to do about it?
But he is a conservative white guy so we can't say that.
In apparent support of this label, his own YouTube channel describes him as a "domestic terrorist".
When they tell you what they are, believe them the first time
I'm looking at you, theocratic fascist Matt Walsh
JFC, he's one of those Humboldt County right wing fascist hippies. (Not joking)
And yes, he has multiple videos titled "diaries of a domestic terrorist"... Going back 14 years.
what kind of headline is this who stopped the terrorist?
News organizations have started calling right wing domestic terrorists "conservative activists" now.