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Through new and expansive assertions of privilege, Republican legislatures around the country are shielding their work on allegedly discriminatory voting maps to prevent the public from finding out how and why they made their decisions.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gerrymandering is a huge problem, but it's only part of the problem. Thanks to the Reapportionment Act of 1929 capping the number of US representatives at 435, votes have become weaker and weaker as the population grows. Moreso in densely populated states, obviously.

So you have Wyoming with a single US Representative whose constituents effectively have more say in national policy than any other citizens.

We must re-reapportion the House. This could reduce gerrymander cheating, and may even make additional parties viable. Our votes should carry equal weight.

[–] Mnemnosyne 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've long thought that instead of having representatives count their votes in Congress, Congress should be restructured thusly:

Instead of each representative having one vote, each representative instead is simply considered to be giving the proxy vote of everyone who voted for them. So if the representative is elected with 230,000 votes, then when that representative votes for something, it counts for 230,000 votes.

Then, any candidate who gets at least X amount of votes (X may be a flat number, or perhaps it's a percentage) is seated. This would mean that even those not in the majority in a particular area still get a voice (as long as they're not in an extreme minority). You could have several candidates, from the same place, voting together or against each other depending on the issue, and the weight of their votes would be directly determined by the number of actual people who voted for them, rather than simply because they represent a geographical area.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been thinking of a system like this for a while, only instead of elections, people can change their vote at any time, and instead of a set number of representatives, you can delegate your vote to whoever (who can then delegate their votes until someone is actually casting them).

Reasoning being many people aren't that interested in spending time getting to understand what's going on in politics, but some enjoy delving into that. If you know and trust someone like that and support similar ideals, then let them proxy your vote or find someone they trust to do so.

Then have votes set in advance so if there's some issue that is important to you, then you can change your vote in time if you disagree with your delegate by either picking a new delegate or voting directly.

I'd also combine that with law trials, both in time and space. Ie, when a new law is created, it's set for n years over y area and both the area it is and isn't in effect and studied for direct and indirect effects, and from there it can be decided if the law should be applied to more areas, tweaked a little, overhauled majorly, or scrapped entirely.

[–] Mnemnosyne 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This would probably be too volatile, and also lack the ability to make deals and compromises. You really need to know that this guy brings this number of votes for at least a certain amount of time, otherwise it becomes very difficult to make deals in a political system.

It would also eliminate the secret ballot nature of the system, because you would have to keep active track of who voted for who, so that that vote could be reassigned at any time. This is an inherent protection against political persecution, so a group in power can't look up the rolls, see who voted against them and move against them. As voting information, it would necessarily be public in order to prevent fraud, at which point other people could look it up. Imagine people in...certain areas...which vote for the 'wrong' party, now their vote can be known by their neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Considering those deals are where a lot of the corruption enters the system, I can't agree that it would be a bad thing to make them unviable. If they are above board, then just put them into whatever is being voted on. But a lot of them are probably more of a "support this bill which I pinky swear won't hurt anyone and I'll give you financial support for your campaign or a nice consulting gig when you retire from politics". Those "benefits" don't help anyone they claim to represent.

As for the political violence part of it, it would be a change in the nature of it because right now the representatives themselves aren't anonymous and can be targetted with violence or threats. Just look at the death threats surrounding the speaker vote and consider how often that might happen where the representatives threatened think they should just vote the way they were told to keep their family safe. Not to say individual voters being targeted would be better, but it would certainly be harder to do that in secrecy and in the volume required to change popular votes.

I think it would mean civil wars would replace assassinations which sounds bad at first until you consider how much riskier and more difficult civil wars are and that it's already an option in the current system as much as it would be in that system. Plus it really looks like that's where this system is headed with that fanatical base that has built their own reality to live in.