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[–] [email protected] 227 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There's no way the model has access to that information, though.

Google's important product must have proper scoped secret management, not just environment variables or similar.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 10 months ago (3 children)

There's no root login. It's all containers.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's containers all the way down!

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I deploy my docker containers in .mkv files.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The containers still run an OS, have proprietary application code on them, and have memory that probably contains other user's data in it. Not saying it's likely, but containers don't really fix much in the way of gaining privileged access to steal information.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's why it's containers... in containers

It's like wearing 2 helmets. If 1 helmet is good, imagine the protection of 2 helmets!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So is running it on actual hardware basically rawdoggin?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Wow what an analogy lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What if those helmets are watermelon helmets

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Then two would still be better than one 😉

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The OS in a container is usually pretty barebones though. Great containers usually use distroless base images. https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/distroless

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The containers will have a root login, but the ssh port won't be open.

[–] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT 4 points 10 months ago

I doubt they even have a root user. Just whatever system packagea are required baked into the image

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Containers can be entirely without anything. Some containers only contain the binary that gets executed. But many containers do contain pretty much a full distribution, but I have yet to see a container with a password hash in its /etc/shadow file...

So while the container has a root account, it doesn't have any login at all, no password, no ssh key, nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It does if they uploaded it to github

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

In that case, it'll steal someone else's secrets!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Still, things like content moderation and data analysis, this could totally be a problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

But you could get it to convince the admin to give you the password, without you having to do anything yourself.