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APK for searching and subscribing to Youtube, Twitch, and more in a single feed (youtu.be)
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I just downloaded and have been loving this. It loads pretty quickly, navigation is intuitive, and I'll finally stop forgetting that Nebula exists because it'll all be in my one big subscription feed.

Since I'm new to moving over to open source, I want to ask the veterans: is this as incredible as it seems right now, or is there something I'm missing?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Came here to say the same thing. The license isn't good at all. What this 100% lead to is, if they succeed with their goals, and a couple years down the line have become the de-facto way to consume content, they will follow the enshittification route. They will close their source and start extracting payment from the creators to be listed or promoted. We've seen this game so many times. Just recently terraform also closed their source, but at least the terraform developers could fork it. You won't be able to do so with this app.

I am all for a software that does the same thing but is fully FOSS. This is the only way to get out of the enshittification loop we're stuck in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

CEO's statement:

We'll probably do a Q+A on this sometime soon.

  1. We believe it's essential that all of the software that people run on their computers be open to scrutiny by the owner of the computer.
  2. We believe that software developers should be payed directly by the people who use their software.
  3. We want others coders to be able to pick up and maintain abandoned projects into the future.

We don't have all the answers, but I personally am very unhappy with the state of open source software. We have billions of people running polished open source software on their Android and iOS devices with all sorts of nefarious hidden software attached by Google, Apple, Facebook, etc.

So we're not gonna just run with status quo. We want to win by letting the people be masters their computers once again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this doesn't fill me with confidence whatsoever they're not going to rugpull down the line. This is just empty words when their actual license prevents one from being the "master of your computer once again".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So how else would you combat malicious forks like what happened to new pipe? Honest question, I like this standard even if there are always more truly open source licenses, if this could become a standard that helps prevent bad actors from taking advantage of less savy users that's a big win to me and a move in the right direction all while being able to see the source code download it modify if i deem fit and install it. Perfect is the enemy of progress. What's your solution?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What happened to newpipe is the fault of Google's police's not allowing an official newpipe, not of Foss. The same issue can happen with this software just as well. There's plenty of Foss which doesn't have this issue, like Firefox

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ok but if Google is not willing to support this effort, like I asked what's your solution besides just letting it happen? Because that's not gonna spark confidence for mass adoption to move away from these bloated ad and tracker filled mainstream apps. You need to have steps for progress and this allows more control when those who are publishing said knock off applications in their store will not.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter whose fault it is.

If the same thing happens with this software, they will have it taken down. That's why the license exists.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Nice edit.

The reason why this happens only to newpipe and not to other Foss software like Firefox is because Google prevents an official newpipe on the app store. The could do the same with this app and license or not they'd have the same problem

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

No, it doesn't?