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hi everyone, i was planning on getting a new laptop cheaply for about 500ish but then i stumbled upon this near-totally modular laptop rhat starts out at above 1000 bucks. do you think the cheaper laptop in the long run is just a false economy and i should go for the framework or what? if you want to ask questions go ahead but im mainly concerned about the longterm financials (and how well it will keep up over time)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Seconding a used Thinkpad. They are plenty modular/repairable compared to other laptops. I've got an X270 and it's a great little machine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

where do you find used thinkpads online?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I've bought about a dozen from friends and family.

Search on eBay.

Find a seller with many of the same model. These are tech contractors offloading the laptops they just replaced under some contract - you'll get a laptop that's been sitting in some managers drawer for the last 3 years.

Next go to the contractors own website, not ebay. See what stuff they have.

I usually email them and just try to express interest in buying 2 or more laptops, ask what peripherals they have - get a dock or something. Ask about RAM or SSD upgrades, things like that.

You're helping them offload their second hand stuff, avoid ebay fees, not being a dick.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are various ebay sellers who carry certified refurbished laptops with warranty included. You can also buy some directly from Lenovo.

[–] bomanicious 4 points 1 year ago

Seconded, I have been very happy with my last 2 purchases of Acer refurbished laptops from the official Acer store on eBay.

[–] epyon22 4 points 1 year ago

Amazon sells used thinkpads other than general age of the hardware love mine that I got for about $300

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Got mine on Ebay, and you usually have to be careful like with any purchase of a used item: ask for detailed photos if you can't judge the state of the item from the photos that are there, ask questions about things that were left out in the description, look for sellers with very good ratings and look at their reviews, see if you can return etc...

Amazon also sells refurbished ones, but so far I've seen the best deals on Ebay.

EDIT: important, make sure the BIOS is unlocked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve got a X270 and it’s a great little machine.

Same. X380 here. Cost ~$200 refurb a yearish ago. Love it so much I steered my mom onto one a couple months back, and she's been loving it too. Manjaro on mine and Win10 on hers, both great little performers. They fall short on tasks you expect to need some grunt for, but are great for everything else. I recommend it for anyone who will listen.

Having said that, I really am eyeballing the framework to be in the running the next time I'm in the market. Whenever I reach that point I'll need to do some comparisons. I could theoretically be convinced to spend a bit more to enable ongoing piecemeal upgrades, desktop-style.