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China gives Ehang the first industry approval for fully autonomous passenger-carrying air taxis::Ehang shares have nearly doubled in price this year, before trading was temporarily halted Monday pending a significant announcement.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

To be clear, I definitely agree that this is a bad idea.

However, one of the hardest things about making autonomous cars work is avoiding traffic and pedestrians. If air traffic control can be managed such that these avoid other aircraft (and things like buildings and cell towers, obviously) I could actually see this as easier to get the software working.

[–] Chais 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There's less air traffic now. But if you approve the first autonomous air taxi, you'll soon approve the second and third and before you know it there are thousands of those things whirring through every major city and then you have just as much traffic and one more dimension to worry about.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but that's a future problem. People don't care about those problems.

[–] Chais 6 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Still a relatively easily solvable problem. The problem with cars is using infrastructure designed for people. They need to read signs, detect things (humans in particular) in the way, and deal with other human drivers. If these communicate with each other (and don't clog signaling frequencies) they should be able to handle each other autonomously fairly well in the air.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Agreed, above trees and buildings there is a lot less air traffic to worry about. But you get into the inherent dangers of air travel. Helicopters are especially dangerous, unlike planes if they lose power they cannot glide at all. In addition they take off vertically, assuming there will be set takeoff landing areas, checking for rapidly ascending and descending aircraft will be very important. Birds are always a concern when it comes to propellers too. And if used in a city up and down drafts created by large buildings like skyscrapers will provide a large controls problem, let's hope those controllers can reliably handle impulse forces.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Helicopters can autorotate, if quadcopters lose power they tumble with no control at all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Specially if things are built from the ground up (pun intended). A new system relying in communication between software and sensors should be relatively easier to deal than the fuzziness of reading signs and reacting to random elements around you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I hope they have excellent navigation system which at least won't crash the aircraft if the gps/glonass/etc signals suddenly got disrupted (bad weather, interference, military activity, etc). Having a big taxi drone suddenly trying to emergency autoland on your roof due to gps failure would be horrible.