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Australians have resoundingly rejected a proposal to recognise Aboriginal people in its constitution and establish a body to advise parliament on Indigenous issues.

Saturday’s voice to parliament referendum failed, with the defeat clear shortly after polls closed.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 11 months ago (25 children)

It's always so funny when Americans on here, including me, are openly willing to discuss how shitty, racist, and full of bigots the United States is. Around 40% of the population is complete filth and we're happy to openly acknowledge that.

Meanwhile, Canada, the UK, and Australian users, even if they're on the left, try to find excuses to not acknowledge that their general public is also significantly racist and bigoted. And always have been.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The difference is our electoral system doesn't let the 30% of racist pieces of shit run the entire country.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Fair enough. I think every democracy needs to have the compulsory voting system that Australia does.

The perceptual downside to the system though is that it definitively and accurately tells you out of the entire population the amount that are bigoted POS'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There were many ATSI people who voted no because they want treaty, not an advisory committee with no veto powers.

Not everyone who voted no is racist and proclaiming they are is far more reminiscent of US divisive politics than how Australian politics works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So, the problem is it didn't change the political process enough?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For progressive no voters, that is correct.

There is of course an element of society who want to ignore or bury any discourse on issues impacting ATSI Australians but they’re not the full picture either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

First person who's bothered to try and understand the result rather than denouncing the country. The No campaign was deliberately divisive, like Abbott's 2013 election or Howard's manipulation of the republic referendum in 1999. Not only that, lack of political engagement and awareness - most embarrassingly from our most prominent left party, the Greens, who get so embroiled in internecine disputes that they seem not to really get what a political party does. The LNP may not be doing well at the moment but they're a true coalition and trusted voting bloc.

In short, people just don't want to run headlong into progressive politics without thinking it through. We're tired of government interference following years of lockdowns, don't trust our state and federal governments because of repeated betrayal by the Morrison government and broken promises there and elsewhere, and Indigenous people were divided and made the perfect the enemy of the good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is the inherent flaw in democracy in general. If most people are shit, the government will also be shit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

That's why access to quality education is tantamount to functioning democracy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe not but we just saw that it's a fuckin' lot more than just 30 for you guys!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

You actually think 55% of Australians are racist?

You understand that the vast majority of No voters voted that way because they didn't understand what it was, and the No campaign very deliberately did everything they could to make it unclear and confusing.

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