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The population doesn’t care about the technology. If we make social media about activitypub more than it is about social media and connecting people - we’ll be shooting our own foot off no mater what meta or anyone does.
Instances and fediverse are great because of the mods, admins and people. Activitypub is the protocol and it’s an open web standard. We should expect web standards and join them but remember the product isn’t the protocol - it’s connecting people
i for one look forward to bridging to p92 and showing them what great communities can be like.
I have no plans to support p92 precisely because it's going to "push" users together as a commodity. What Meta has jurisdiction over is not its communities but rows of data - in the same way that Reddit's admins have conflicted with its mods, it is inherently not organized in such a way that it can properly represent any specific community or their actions.
So the cost-benefit from the side of extant fedi is very poor: it won't operate in a standard way, because it can't, and the quality of each additional user won't be particularly worth the pain - most of them will just be confused by being presented with a new space, and if the nature of it is hidden from them it will become an endless misunderstanding.
If a community using a siloed platform wants to federate, that should be a self-determined thing and they should front the effort to remain on a similar footing to other federated communities. The idea that either side here inherently wants to connect and just "needs a helping hand" is just wrong.
You're not thinking broad enough.
Meta joining and be successful means Reddit has to think about federating or not being successful.
Wordpress is going to have all their blogs on activitypub soon. Tumblr says they're joining - Mozilla is hirring product and developers to build out their platform.
Also, Meta is a multi billion dollar company - they know how to do UI/UX - they can spend their investment/R&D on solving problems we can't and we can be nice and welcoming to the users who show curiosity.
It's a shame we're too short sighted to see opportunity here. We really have nothing to lose since it's not like meta will suck all the haters back in
Speaking of not caring about technology, what is p92?
Meta's attempt to fill the twitter void. At one time it was going to be called Barcelona, but now it's apparently going to be called Threads. Coming to a Fediverse near you later this summer.
I hate that name, it’s too generic and is going to eat up into other matters that use the word threads. This is going to be annoying.
That is entirely on purpose; Same as with "meta" and "metaverse"