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[–] [email protected] 185 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you’re curious how but don’t want to read, I skimmed and it seems like overzealous privacy/permission warnings are at the heart of their complaints. I’d agree, it’s annoying but I prefer it to the alternative.

Creative cloud wanted to run at login, and in the old days, it would just make that happen. Now it implores YOU to turn on the setting because it cannot. That’s a win in my book.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I swear articles like this were written by companies like Adobe

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Asking for permission to access downloads OS fine by me.

But what pisses me off to no end is system integrity protection. Want a new system sound? Have to boot into recovery, turn it off, copy the file, sign your new modified system, then turn it on and reboot.

And every single update will undo your changes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay but would you prefer the alternative where anything with root permissions (either apps with privileged helper processes or any pkg you ever installed) can modify the OS in whatever way it likes and permanently and invisibly install some kind of malware/spyware?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes.

Just give me the option to turn it off permanently. I want control over my system.

It’s good for the idiots who just click things randomly. But I don’t want it for myself.

[–] BudgetBandit 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’d rather prefer an option within the settings to toggle it off for a set amount of time or until turning off the device. You don’t need root access about 99% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

While that is good, to many warning pop ups also aren't good. As if you always need to click through 5-7 warnings/permission windows, you might not notice when a bad one sneaks in to the middle.

It's a difficult problem to navigate, especially as you need to have it work for such a big and diverse audience.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Too many popups is really Windows' issue. It's not that all the bullshit companies do doesn't require you to authorize it; it's that anything you install needs effectively the same permission and you're basically conditioned to ignore it.

Apple's version where it tells you what it wants permission for is much better.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a theoretical issue. In actuality, I haven’t faced anything close to windows level pop ups. I think Apple has struck the right balance personally and I would definitely not want to go back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

That's really good. I don't personally use Appel for computers, so I never seen how they do it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's a difficult problem to navigate, especially as you need to have it work for such a big and diverse audience.

That's a very polite way of saying that part of the target audience are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

You mean stuff like sandboxing and preventing apps from making system changes?