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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh boy, you clearly never had a semi truck engine breaking down a hill 30 yards from your house at 3am in the morning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, they said "moving car". They're correct; cars moving at high speed produce significantly more tyre noise than engine noise. Larger vehicles have much more engine noise, so the speed at which tyre noise dominates is also higher.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I said, you never had a truck engine break in front of your house. It is significantly louder than any tire noise. It almost sounds like a machine gun.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No I haven't, because where I live we've outlawed using jake brakes within cities due to the noise - except when adequate muffling is installed. Again we're talking about cars, not trucks, so jake brakes aren't relevant anyway.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I live near a road with a 100 km/h speed limit, all I hear is the tires on the road, no engine. I guess an electric car could be even louder, as they are heavier. The loudest vehicles here are the trucks, but again, can't hear the engine, just the sound of the tires. Especially when it rains and the road is wet.

I don't know what 'breaking down the hill' means, but of course there are scenarios where combustion engines are louder. When they wait on a red light e.g. My point is: EVs suck as much as combution engine cars, they are both loud.

Why not opt for the option of more public transport, bikes and cars only where they are absolutly neccessary - for all I care EVs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I live 100 yards away from an interstate highway in the US. Looking at it right now. Yeah the tire noise is real too. But I got use to it, it's soft and consistent.

Engine breaking is when a truck uses its engine in lower gear to slow down the truck. It's really loud and sounds like a machine gun.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

My favorite solution for cargo transport is loud as well, trains aren't exactly known for their silent behaviour. Difficult to find the best solution there.

Regarding the topic: I don't seem to be that off with my feeling, according to this site 50 % of the noise of a car comes from tires. And it gets worse at higher speeds and with more mass. I think EVs are more silent than ICEs but still far from good if they can be avoided by better solutions like bikes, public transport and city planning.

Of course I wouldn't want to take away your sleeping aid, a nice constant white noise of tires can be nice. But maybe a white noise recording would be better for the environment.