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[-] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

The thing is, I don't think a guide is really needed to install Linux. Most of it is pretty straight-forward. (The only tricky bit that comes to mind is making the USB that you've put your distro on bootable. That probably isn't obvious; and it might not be obvious how to get your computer to boot from a USB anyway if you've never done it before.)

Anyway, the way I see it, Microsoft's guide is more about how you can use Linux while still having Windows. If someone is searching for "how do I install Linux?" Microsoft would obviously prefer the answer to involve something that preserves Windows. First preference: WSL, second preference: Virtual Machine, third preference: dual-boot. And after that, you're on your own.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

third preference: dual-boot.

Does that mean they're gonna stop eating grub? Becouse I won't dual boot let alone allow windows near my hardware till it stops eating grub

[-] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I prefer having Windows safely tucked away on a virtual machine where it can't hurt anything.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

You know that could be interpreted as a challenge.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

I wouldn't count on it... From Microsoft's point of view, dual booting works as long as you install Windows first - which probably suits them just fine.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I personally haven't seen windows do that in many many years (last time I saw it happen was with windows XP, though I haven't ran dual-boot system with every windows since then, just some).

In my dual-Linux setup though, one keeps trying to get over the other in every minor update.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Last time it happened to me was early in my linux journey (around 2 years ago) with win 10, honestly if I wasn't already extremely pissed off at windows at the time I probably would have given up on linux when it happened, as it was though I instead gave up on Windows and haven't looked back

[-] Secret300 4 points 9 months ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

windows hasn't overwritten my uefi settings on major update in 3ish years

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You have to install Windows first, then your Linux distro.

Doing that has solved all my problems with Windows being a douche

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

So I'd have to remove my already setup to how I like it OS, install windows, remove all the garbage it comes with, reinstall Linux, and then re set it up to how I like...

Just to "more easily" do VR? Yeah no thanks, seems like far more effort than windows is worth to me

[-] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't think a guide is really needed to install Linux

I had a guide and it was still a big learning curve. Linus had a guide and he still bricked his machine trying to install Steam. Imagine your parents or grandparents being told without context to mount an ISO to a USB and set up their BIOS - for 90% of people there is no way in hell they're installing Linux without a guide unless they can double click an exe and have an install wizard do it for them.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I agree; but please take my comment in the context of Microsoft's guide - which doesn't tell users how to do any of things that you've mentioned. My point is that the underlying purpose of the guide is not so much about how to install linux, but how you might try linux while still keeping Windows.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

The thing is, I don’t think a guide is really needed to install Linux. Most of it is pretty straight-forward. (The only tricky bit that comes to mind is making the USB that you’ve put your distro on bootable. That probably isn’t obvious; and it might not be obvious how to get your computer to boot from a USB anyway if you’ve never done it before.)

It's been awhile since I installed a Linux distro...Have some of them improved guidance related to allocating disk space on install? I remember that was one of the parts that I wasn't entirely confident I'd handled properly the last few times I did so. Something something swap, something /, and the like.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I did a Mint install a few weeks ago, and I'd say that if you want to preserve some existing OS (i.e. dual boot), then it isn't super easy. You have to tell it what new partitions you want - and therefore you have to know something about what partitions you should have. The good news is that you don't actually need any swap or home partition. You can just put it all on one partition - but I don't think it's obvious what to do.

On the other hand, if you aren't trying to preserve something you already have, you can tell the installer to just go with all the defaults, and then you don't have to know anything about it.

Note: Microsoft's guide doesn't mention any of that detail. It basically just says to follow the instructions of the installer.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Ou can dual-boot with the default options, but iirc if you want to choose how much of your Windows partition you want to use you have to do it manually. Haven't done it in ages though so I could be wrong

[-] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

And after trying Linux inside windows and then inside a VM and realising it runs like shit, they'll be convinced windows is better, but they've been deceived.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You're so right! I feel like I always need to try two programs and I am never doing it often enough to actually remember which works.

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