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I haven’t been keeping up, what happened?
https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2023/dear-red-hat-are-you-dumb
TL;DR - RedHat is going to wall off all their code/packages behind a paywall meaning the only way to use RedHat is with a paid subscription.
Well that sucks.
Do you know if they will still contribute upstream?
Based on my understanding, Fedora will be unaffected but Rocky & Alma are in some hot water along with Scientific Linux. RHEL is based on Fedora while the others are based on RHEL.
For me Fedora is affected.
I shouldn't be the only fedora user thinking fuck red hat and planning on switching away.
I completely understand your perspective. I also made the decision to migrate from Fedora, a move that was echoed by several of my colleagues. This shift wasn't widely reported in the usual tech podcasts and media outlets I follow, which surprised me, considering my coworkers had already made the switch. It might be a coincidence, but I can't help but wonder if there's an under-the-radar trend taking place.
Recent experiences with corporate mergers and acquisitions have left me cautious, so when I heard about Red Hat's decision to part ways with long-standing Fedora contributors, I began contemplating alternatives. Given IBM's involvement, I had a gut feeling that the situation might deteriorate over time. I didn't realize Red Hat had some of these FOSS issues well before the buy out.
I decided to test a transition to Debian 12. I've been using it for a few weeks now, and I must say, if things continue on this positive trajectory, I see myself sticking with it for the long haul. I've always appreciated Fedora's blend of stability and cutting-edge features. Debian 12, on the other hand, has proven to be incredibly reliable. Despite my risky decision to install the latest experimental GNOME packages, it has held up well and is up-to-date - though I understand Debian's release schedule might not provide the same consistent flow of new packages that Fedora does. That said, I'm comfortable with a setup that prioritizes stability and adherence to free and open-source software principles.
What are you going to switch to (for desktop). I might go Arch but I always liked the more traditional feeling of Fedora and fixed releases but then also having recent versions in the repositories. I do miss the aur sometimes though.
Honestly, yeah. I'll probably stay on Fedora until I find something that can replace Silverblue.
Does it require a paid subscription? You can have a free developer account. I didn't see anything in the Red Hat post besides it being available through the customer portal, which you have access to with a free account.
That's IBM for you