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Are you new to Bethesda games or it has just been a while? ๐
I remember starting Skyrim for the first time and making it as far as the character selection screen (well, after spending a few hours fixing the no-voices bug) at which point I went wtf is this crap and went looking for mods.
I was hit with the bouncy horse bug the very first time I booted up Skyrim.
Maybe I was just less jaded in 2011 but was Skyrim ever this bad? I even enjoyed Fallout 4 - you know... for what it is.
The original vanilla Skyrim was pretty terrible. Don't get me wrong it was playable but it was a very forgettable and unimpressive game. The low quality assets, the bugs, the half-assed talent trees, the uninspired and unfinished quest lines, the dumb AI, the barren ugly towns and landscapes, the bad UI etc. Just think about all the things you have to fix nowadays with mods to play it properly, nevermind adding new stuff.
Incorrect. Vanilla, unmodded Skyrim is one of the best games of all time, despite the issues. Mods just bring it from a 9/10 to an 11/10.
See? I can voice my opinions as if they're objective fact, too.
But it is facts In talking about. Nobody in their right mind will pretend there weren't bugs, or that the quests or talent trees or crafting or alchemy were well made, or that the AI was good etc.
All you're saying is that you liked the game in spite of all that โ either that or you can't even remember how bad it was before the mods.
Skyrim's greatest virtue will always be how moddable it is. But that still doesn't mean that Bethesda put out a great game in 2011.
Nobody's said the game was flawless, but I, at least, never experienced any bugs or design issues that detracted from the overall incredible experience.
You're conflating facts with opinion. I thought the quests and perk trees were, for the most part, very well made.
The lack of spellmaking was absolutely heartbreaking for fans of the series.