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[–] [email protected] 40 points 10 months ago (47 children)

Cool, now try being the renter who paid off your mortgage for 20 years and has nothing to show for it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The system is exploitative to both sides if they have low capital. The only winners are the capitalists who already have more than enough.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I agree there is a problem where people that rent and want to own can’t because of affordability. However, renting is less risky. Renters aren’t on the hook for major problems with a property. Imagine a leak goes undiscovered and causes major damage and mold to your apartment. What do you do as a renter? You move out, find a new place, and maybe even sue your landlord for damages and health impact.

What does your landlord do? Try to find enough money to cover the repairs, vacancy, and hire a lawyer.

Let’s not act like renting isn’t without its benefits. I think the factor most people overlook when they think about owning property is RISK. Risk means you could lose something or be liable. Renters have limited risk. If you’re taking on risk, you should be rewarded for it, otherwise you wouldn’t do it. Also, the reward is supposed to make you resilient to risks materializing. If the reward isn’t big enough, then when a risk materializes into a real problem, you won’t have enough capital to recover from it and you’ll go bankrupt.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I can’t even imagine how devastating it would be to have to sell my second home.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, it’s more than that though. You could sell the property at a loss or have it foreclosed on. Selling incurs fees of roughly 6-8% of the selling price.. so, even if you sell it for what you bought it for, you could still be in the red. You might walk away $100ks in debt.

You can be jealous of people in that position of having multiple properties all you want, but ask yourself if you were in their position whether you would somehow respond differently to the incentives and risks?

If you had enough money to buy multiple properties what would you do?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

I would do what I do now and invest in companies making products I really care about. I wouldn’t own two houses. To me, that’s unethical. I understand that not everyone considers it that way, but you should also understand that I do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Who rents for 20 years and then acts all surprised that they don't own the house? If your end goal is to own a house, start by buying a house. If you can afford to rent and pay off someone else's mortgage then you can certainly afford to pay off your own mortgage.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You certainly can, right? But that doesn’t mean you’ll qualify for a loan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

That and I can't save up enough for a down payment cause rent/inflation/student loans/car payment. I was a teacher for 6 years and couldn't save a penny. If I wanted to make more money I needed a master's degree which I also couldn't save up to afford.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How is someone supposed to save for a mortgage when they're busy paying off someone else's mortgage?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (12 children)

How is that the landlord's fault?

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